Aldeer.com Forums Alabama Deer Talk Serious Deer Talk Forum More on old doe behavior…….

We have found that age, not nutrition, is by far the biggest factor in significant doe weight changes. Even if you overwhelm them with protein, changing the weight by 10% is good. Changing a doe weight from 100lbs to 130lbs+ just by nutrition is tough.

I got a grand idea as well. Lighten up, get some joy in your life, and learn to take a joke homie. And, your idea wasn’t all that grand.

Y’all just cant help you can you??.....Its all good….homie

It appeared to be what was inferred. Does are not going to significantly change their home range based on habitat condition, in most cases. They will, however, shift usage within their home range as resources are more readily available.

I'm gonna go ahead and throw in that last paragraph for later discussions......


"Studies show that 4% to 49% of female deer disperse from their birth site, with typical rates hovering around 13% to 20%. Dispersal depends highly on habitat and population density; when female deer do disperse, they typically establish a new home range several miles away.

Proximate influences on female dispersal in white-tailed deer are primarily driven by localized social pressures and physical landscape barriers rather than the mate-competition or inbreeding factors that affect males. Dispersal predominantly occurs at 1 year of age and is triggered during the fawning season when pregnant adult females become highly territorial and aggressively exclude subordinate yearlings. The primary proximate trigger for young females (yearlings) is displacement by their mothers, who isolate themselves to give birth. This density-dependent social exclusion pushes subordinate yearlings out of the natal range. During the fawning season, over 50% of yearling females make temporary exploratory forays outside their home range prior to permanent dispersal.

Unlike male movements, which are often oriented by open terrain and agriculture, female dispersal paths are strongly dictated by physical barriers. Natural features like rivers and human-altered landscapes (e.g., roadways and residential areas) shape the directionality of their paths and often dictate where dispersal terminates."

You’re talking about two different things here CNC. Yearlings dispersal is natural and happens to both sexes, although does typically don’t disperse as far or as frequently. That’s different than pulling established does into better habitat.

Are you sure it’s me that’s talking about two different things…..Go back and reread it……

Cool. I’m glad we are homies homie.

Since you asked Matt to read that again, I thought I would too. I've read it very carefully 4 times now and yes, you are talking about 2 different things.

Whew!!! I thought my reading comprehension was getting pretty bad. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

So now that a little time has passed to think about it…..Can we agree that this ^^^^ is actually a moot point as it concerns the bigger discussion we’re having??.....Meaning that it doesn’t matter whether it’s dispersing yearling does or neighboring doe groups with overlapping home ranges, etc, etc…….If they come in from outside of the higher end property we’re managing then they all count as “immigrant” does….....Do we agree on that?

......and just like that, nobody wanted to talk about doe management anymore.

That's because you don't want to "talk about it", you just want to give your assessment and everyone agree with you.

Since you like psychology.................

The constant need to always be right is often driven by a fear of inadequacy, serving as an emotional defense mechanism rather than a pursuit of truth. This behavior can damage personal and professional relationships, limit self-development, and lead to isolation.
The Psychology Behind the Need:
The compulsion to be correct generally stems from control and certainty, not fact. For individuals who always need to be right, their self-worth is deeply tied to their perfection. Admitting fault feels threatening or shameful, so being "right" becomes their psychological armor.
How It Affects Interactions:
People with this trait frequently employ certain communication habits to maintain dominance in discussions, such as talking over others, constantly correcting minor details, and striving to get the last word. Over time, this creates one-way dynamics where friends, family, or colleagues feel unheard, eventually causing them to withdraw or shut down.
Managing the Behavior:
If you are dealing with someone who constantly needs to be right, or are trying to manage this trait in yourself, awareness and boundaries are key. It helps to remember that facts usually cannot alter a deeply defensive opinion. Instead of trying to prove the person wrong, you can de-escalate by validating their perspective—such as by saying "I see how you arrived at that"—and learning when to gracefully disengage.

The words in bold are what's happening here.

CNC must have missed that when studying for his online psychology degree...

I love you

Always keep an open mind and never hold any one idea too tightly…..Its inevitable that ^^^^ this is where most of us we’ll eventually find ourselves at some point in questioning some practice that we once thought to be the best way…..You should fully expect your thinking at age 50 to be different than it was at 25……if not then you stopped growing and learning…..In order for that not to happen we have to be willing to accept that any one thing we believe to be true now could change in the future and its ok for our thinking to evolve as we grow…….Pride is a stupid thing to let get in the way of that…….

Did you learn that in your online Freud classes?

No but you wanna know something that’s kinda cool??.....That idea about the immigrant does resetting your epigenetic progress was not something I had thought of ahead of starting these last couple threads…..We actually all figured that out together in real time……That’s one of the things I like about these types of discussions…..They help spur along ideas……