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I think the good uses outweigh the bad. I could care less if I get my picture made. Some of y'all need to take your tin foil hats off. It doesn’t even take a picture. The camera comes on and it reads the license plate and logs it. From Gemini Pro (which is a pretty low end paid research AI) In China, license plate readers are not standalone tools; they are fully integrated into massive state surveillance systems like "Skynet" and the Integrated Joint Operations Platform (IJOP). The state uses this integrated network to control physical movement and access to infrastructure in real time: Automated Restrictions: If a citizen has a low "social credit score" or is flagged by the government, the system can automatically block them from purchasing high-speed rail tickets, booking flights, or even buying gasoline at a pump. Checkpoint Control: The cameras talk directly to physical checkpoints, locking down highway access or toll booths if a flagged vehicle or ID card is detected. Total Behavior Tracking: The system logs everything from where you drive to how much electricity your home uses, flagging "atypical" behavior for police investigation. The U.S. Reality: Building the Blueprint? While the U.S. doesn't have a centralized federal "social credit" system, privacy experts warn that companies like Flock are building the physical and digital blueprint that would make a similar system possible. The infrastructure is already highly interconnected: The Nationwide Web: Flock doesn't just sell isolated cameras; they run a massive, searchable, interconnected network. A police department in one state can easily query the camera data of a neighborhood association three states away. Tracking Private Decisions: This isn't just a theoretical worry. In Texas, police used Flock databases to track a vehicle across state lines in connection with an out-of-state abortion investigation. Lack of Oversight and Misuse: Audit logs consistently show officers using the system to look up ex-partners, neighbors, or political protesters without any legitimate law enforcement justification. The Growing Pushback Because of this exact "slippery slope," the tide has begun to turn in some places. Municipalities and police departments are starting to realize that the convenience of the tech might not be worth the privacy trade-off: Case in Point: The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) decided to completely terminate its contract with Flock Safety due to major unresolved concerns regarding civil liberties, data sharing, and how the collected privacy data is handled. Dozens of other cities and states have started passing laws to strictly limit how long this data can be kept, who can look at it, and whether it can be shared across state lines.
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I think the good uses outweigh the bad. I could care less if I get my picture made. Some of y'all need to take your tin foil hats off. Yep, all in the name of safety....... right
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I think the good uses outweigh the bad. I could care less if I get my picture made. Some of y'all need to take your tin foil hats off. Yep, all in the name of safety....... rightThat’s right Geeb. There’s no way the good outweighs the bad imo.
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Try this additional layer on for size: Want another layer of woohoo. All those voluntary and involuntary DNA tests are now in databases. I could write code to find my billionaire client an organ donor in all that juicy data. Now I find out that donor’s traffic and other movement patterns and then wham, the donor has near fatal accident fortuitously close to a Level 1 Trauma Center where they succumb to their injuries and organs are harvested.
Don't let life get in the way of living
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Try this additional layer on for size: Want another layer of woohoo. All those voluntary and involuntary DNA tests are now in databases. I could write code to find my billionaire client an organ donor in all that juicy data. Now I find out that donor’s traffic and other movement patterns and then wham, the donor has near fatal accident fortuitously close to a Level 1 Trauma Center where they succumb to their injuries and organs are harvested. Social media in itself focuses on societal influences. Trump used Obamas design and beat Hillary There’s so many examples of the masses being taken advantage of under the guise of it’ll be fun or it’s for our greater good. Most willingly get on board.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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DNA databases exist Firearms database(s) exist based on required sales data, i.e. a registry Medical records are constantly hacked Cell phones track your movements, ping locations Doorbell cameras, and home security cams, record street activity Cameras on streets and sidewalks ... there is no expectation of privacy, and limited privacy rights, in public areas Your phone tracks your usage and sites for advertising, all the time.
It's more extensive in bigger cities. There's more public cams-scrutiny in smaller and midsized cities you might not expect, too.
It's fun to be out at night or pre-dawn running and seeing how many doorbell cams gleam. Patterning homes for security, vehicles, dogs, etc., is incredibly easy. People think they have security with a little camera. Patterning people is easier than patterning deer.
You're being watched or tracked all the time.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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There's a group of people up here that crack me up by swearing that the monitors on traffic lights in intersections are Flock cameras watching our every move. They act like I crazy when explaining those things simply monitor the intersection for activity to tell the light when it needs to change for optimum flow.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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There's a group of people up here that crack me up by swearing that the monitors on traffic lights in intersections are Flock cameras watching our every move. They act like I crazy when explaining those things simply monitor the intersection for activity to tell the light when it needs to change for optimum flow. If they actually changed for optimum flow then folks would believe you. All they seem to do is back traffic up more and piss folks off.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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I heard Mel Gibson was doing a sequel to The Patriot.... ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/G2qXHhxv/IMG-5223.jpg)
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The gov will get bored with me. I work, I grocery shop, I go to the river and the woods. Advertisers hate me, I don't buy nothing unless I want something. I hate being strong minded and independent.
Romans 8:1-2 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
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The gov will get bored with me. I work, I grocery shop, I go to the river and the woods. Advertisers hate me, I don't buy nothing unless I want something. I hate being strong minded and independent. When you decide to do something different the AI will automatically flag you as doing something uncharacteristic and then it will really start paying attention to you.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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If you or some of your family is ever a victim of a crime you will welcome using a flock camera to help catch the criminals. That is where I see the huge advantage.
A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams
He alone is educated who has learned the lessons of open-mindedness
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If you or some of your family is ever a victim of a crime you will welcome using a flock camera to help catch the criminals. That is where I see the huge advantage. You can find some good in almost anything if you look hard enough, but that doesn't mean it outweighs the bad. This is just the first step in ushering in the surveillance state, and if we accept this, they know they have us by the short hairs.
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If you or some of your family is ever a victim of a crime you will welcome using a flock camera to help catch the criminals. That is where I see the huge advantage. You can find some good in almost anything if you look hard enough, but that doesn't mean it outweighs the bad. This is just the first step in ushering in the surveillance state, and if we accept this, they know they have us by the short hairs. Yep
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“Those who would sacrifice essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”
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“Those who would sacrifice essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” IIRC, that was Thomas Jefferson who said that.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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“Those who would sacrifice essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” IIRC, that was Thomas Jefferson who said that. Think it was Franklin, not Jefferson
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The gov will get bored with me. I work, I grocery shop, I go to the river and the woods. Advertisers hate me, I don't buy nothing unless I want something. I hate being strong minded and independent. When you decide to do something different the AI will automatically flag you as doing something uncharacteristic and then it will really start paying attention to you. I did go to Steves Farm over in Walnut Hill, Fl last week and yesterday. That was out of the norm for me, I usually just stop at Allegra farm market in Daphne. Reckon, they noticed?
Romans 8:1-2 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
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The gov will get bored with me. I work, I grocery shop, I go to the river and the woods. Advertisers hate me, I don't buy nothing unless I want something. I hate being strong minded and independent. When you decide to do something different the AI will automatically flag you as doing something uncharacteristic and then it will really start paying attention to you. I did go to Steves Farm over in Walnut Hill, Fl last week and yesterday. That was out of the norm for me, I usually just stop at Allegra farm market in Daphne. Reckon, they noticed? Probably: Automatic License Plate Readers (ALPRs) from Flock Safety are actively used in Daphne. The cameras track vehicle details (like license plates, make, model, and bumper stickers) and log them into a searchable database.Locations and management of Flock cameras in the area include: Private Property Cameras: Several Flock cameras have been spotted outside retail locations like the Daphne Sam’s Club and the Lowe’s. Daphne Police confirmed that these specific retail-area ALPRs were installed and are controlled by private property management/loss prevention teams, not the city. City-Wide Technology: While the Daphne Police Department uses real-time monitored "eyes in the sky" (such as 360-degree cameras on mobile police trailers) to fight crime, surrounding Baldwin County law enforcement does utilize integrated Flock network systems. Residents can also register their own security cameras with Baldwin County Safe to assist law enforcement
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The gov will get bored with me. I work, I grocery shop, I go to the river and the woods. Advertisers hate me, I don't buy nothing unless I want something. I hate being strong minded and independent. When you decide to do something different the AI will automatically flag you as doing something uncharacteristic and then it will really start paying attention to you. I did go to Steves Farm over in Walnut Hill, Fl last week and yesterday. That was out of the norm for me, I usually just stop at Allegra farm market in Daphne. Reckon, they noticed? Probably: Automatic License Plate Readers (ALPRs) from Flock Safety are actively used in Daphne. The cameras track vehicle details (like license plates, make, model, and bumper stickers) and log them into a searchable database.Locations and management of Flock cameras in the area include: Private Property Cameras: Several Flock cameras have been spotted outside retail locations like the Daphne Sam’s Club and the Lowe’s. Daphne Police confirmed that these specific retail-area ALPRs were installed and are controlled by private property management/loss prevention teams, not the city. City-Wide Technology: While the Daphne Police Department uses real-time monitored "eyes in the sky" (such as 360-degree cameras on mobile police trailers) to fight crime, surrounding Baldwin County law enforcement does utilize integrated Flock network systems. Residents can also register their own security cameras with Baldwin County Safe to assist law enforcement Reckon they gonna be upset I bought my cantaloupes at Steves this time?
Romans 8:1-2 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
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