|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
|
30
|
31
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
15 members (janiemae, fur_n_feathers, gobblebox, gregnbc, StateLine, catdoctor, coosabuckhunter, UA Hunter, Exhoosier, Stacey, dustymac, JD53, BrandonClark, 2 invisible),
772
guests, and
0
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,381 Likes: 150
Glad He Doesn’t Have One
|
|
Glad He Doesn’t Have One
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,381 Likes: 150 |
By the looks of that video clip it does not look like stand your ground because he never went towards her and did not have a weapon. Pwyse all she had to do was walk away. Instead she had already pulled the gun. I think she had already made her mind up when the first words were spewed. I agree she could have avoided it. No doubt they both could have. All she had to do was walk away and all he had to do was walk away. I’m not sure you watched the same video as me though. When he rounds the corner of the white car he turns and faces her and takes two steps directly towards her. Whether he had a weapon or not doesn’t matter. The whole actual premise behind “stand your ground” is that you don’t have to walk away. You have no legal duty to retreat from a threat before you use deadly force. He walked towards her obviously threatening her, she stood her ground. Could it have been avoided? Yes of course, by both sides. But that’s not what stand your ground is about. This is from AI explaining Florida Statutes § 776.012 and § 776.013 what constitutes a legal stand your ground scenario. Lawful Presence: You must be in a place where you have a legal right to be (e.g., a public sidewalk, a business, your vehicle, or your home) and you cannot be engaged in illegal activity at the time. Reasonable Belief: You must reasonably believe that using force is necessary to defend against the imminent use of unlawful force. Threshold for Deadly Force: You can only resort to deadly force if you reasonably believe it is immediately necessary to prevent imminent death, great bodily harm, or the imminent commission of a forcible felony (such as robbery, burglary, carjacking, or aggravated assault).
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 5,794 Likes: 38
12 point
|
|
12 point
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 5,794 Likes: 38 |
yep she was clearly the agressor and he was walking away untill she probably called him a white cracker.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,035 Likes: 18
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,035 Likes: 18 |
By the looks of that video clip it does not look like stand your ground because he never went towards her and did not have a weapon. Pwyse all she had to do was walk away. Instead she had already pulled the gun. I think she had already made her mind up when the first words were spewed. Watch both videos....he was walking right at her and was within a few feet when she shot him. Let's see: The woman retreated despite not being required to do so under Florida law. She told the advancing man to stay away from her. He continued to advance while she was pointing her gun at him. What intent would you perceive if a person kept coming at you after telling him to back off while you had him at gunpoint? The lady cooperated with police, gave a statement and was released. I expect she won't be charged, and if Florida does so, she won't be convicted even if the jury is all racist white men.
Last edited by Groundhawg; 07/03/26 06:54 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 5,189 Likes: 49
12 point
|
|
12 point
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 5,189 Likes: 49 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,268 Likes: 62
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,268 Likes: 62 |
I saw one video that said she got out of her car with her pistol already drawn. I have no clue if that’s true, but it does detract from the “self-defense” argument a little. She looked like she’s done this before.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,192 Likes: 11
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,192 Likes: 11 |
Anybody remember the white dude that shot the black dude after being pushed down? Well he got 30 yrs if im not mistaken. This man never touched this bitch, so how should this case be any different?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,035 Likes: 18
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,035 Likes: 18 |
yep she was clearly the agressor and he was walking away untill she probably called him a white cracker. Watch both videos....he was walking right at her and was within a few feet when she shot him. Let's see: The woman retreated despite not being required to do so under Florida law. She told the advancing man to stay away from her. He continued to advance while she was pointing her gun at him. What intent would you perceive if a person kept coming at you after telling him to back off while you had him at gunpoint?
Last edited by Groundhawg; 07/03/26 07:59 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 19,233 Likes: 27
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 19,233 Likes: 27 |
id shot him before he got that close .
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,381 Likes: 150
Glad He Doesn’t Have One
|
|
Glad He Doesn’t Have One
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,381 Likes: 150 |
Anybody remember the white dude that shot the black dude after being pushed down? Well he got 30 yrs if im not mistaken. This man never touched this bitch, so how should this case be any different? Well I’m not familiar with that incident but if he was pushed down, and retaliated with a gun shot, that isn’t a stand your ground scenario. That’s retaliation. So if that’s what happened that’s how it would be different.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,192 Likes: 11
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,192 Likes: 11 |
Anybody remember the white dude that shot the black dude after being pushed down? Well he got 30 yrs if im not mistaken. This man never touched this bitch, so how should this case be any different? Well I’m not familiar with that incident but if he was pushed down, and retaliated with a gun shot, that isn’t a stand your ground scenario. That’s retaliation. So if that’s what happened that’s how it would be different. Si someone that physically assaults you is not stand your ground ,but shooting someone that doesn't touch you is stand your ground?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,085 Likes: 60
6 point
|
|
6 point
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,085 Likes: 60 |
He ain’t retarded no mo 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I wouldn’t convict her and if she was white and your wife you wouldn’t want someone persistently closing in on her though she was changing directions.
His intentions were clear. This is correct. I guess everyone defending this dude would be okay if the roles were reversed and it was their wife, daughter, or loved one in that same position?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,381 Likes: 150
Glad He Doesn’t Have One
|
|
Glad He Doesn’t Have One
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,381 Likes: 150 |
Anybody remember the white dude that shot the black dude after being pushed down? Well he got 30 yrs if im not mistaken. This man never touched this bitch, so how should this case be any different? Well I’m not familiar with that incident but if he was pushed down, and retaliated with a gun shot, that isn’t a stand your ground scenario. That’s retaliation. So if that’s what happened that’s how it would be different. Si someone that physically assaults you is not stand your ground ,but shooting someone that doesn't touch you is stand your ground? It depends. Like I said I’m not familiar with that incident. Did he push him down and then turn and walk away? Did he push him down in self defense? There is a reason he was convicted. Does the state he was convicted in even have a stand your ground law? Like I said I’m not familiar with it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,192 Likes: 11
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,192 Likes: 11 |
.Michael Dredjka shot unarmed man who pushed him to the ground in Florida. He got sentenced to 20 years for manslaughter.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,192 Likes: 13
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,192 Likes: 13 |
I'll just say that was a stupid way to die...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,370 Likes: 35
8 point
|
|
8 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,370 Likes: 35 |
She's going to have to explain to me why she was afraid for her life to me before I decide.
Romans 8:1-2
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 10,972 Likes: 190
Fancy
|
|
Fancy
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 10,972 Likes: 190 |
I'll just say that was a stupid way to die... Most definitely. He walked right into that, no pun intended. He didn’t have to die, but he invited it.
|
|
1 member likes this:
AU7MM08 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 15,383 Likes: 77
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 15,383 Likes: 77 |
I'll just say that was a stupid way to die... Most definitely. He walked right into that, no pun intended. He didn’t have to die, but he invited it. Who could have possibly guessed this outcome???? Messing with an irate black woman holding a gun, which of the following is the most likely to occur. A, she gives you a hug. B, she gives you a high 5. C, she shoots your honky ass. D, she pulls out a giftcard to Publix and gives it to you while you’re at gun point.
Last edited by AU7MM08; 07/04/26 06:43 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,162 Likes: 196
Doing the best I can.
|
|
Doing the best I can.
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,162 Likes: 196 |
Simple answer......don't get into a fight over a parking space, just go find another one.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 26,559 Likes: 166
Freak of Nature
|
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 26,559 Likes: 166 |
She's going to have to explain to me why she was afraid for her life to me before I decide. That’s why you need to state I feared for my life and I need lawyer The way words are said matter No offense to you jawbone but not all law enforcement agree with edc and the 2nd amendment
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 26,559 Likes: 166
Freak of Nature
|
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 26,559 Likes: 166 |
At the end of the day whether or not really doesn’t matter if you’re that dude
Choose carefully your actions
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
|
|
|
|
|
