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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
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So...

If space is boundless, then why would anyone think that we, on this tiny rock, in an ocean of galaxies, are the only one to have intelligent life on it? (And I use the term "intelligent" very loosely.)

Jesus

Yep.


So if someone believes in Jesus then that automatically precludes them from understanding probability? I don't think so... Not only do I believe in Jesus, but I also have faith in him and a personal relationship with him, yet I still conclude that there should be other civilizations out there on other planets, simply because of probability and logic.

Has anyone ever heard of the Drake Equation? It is estimate that the the Universe has 10 million million suns similar enough to our own to sustain life.

"The universe has 10 million, million, million suns (10 followed by 18 zeros) similar to our own. One in a million has planets around it. Only one in a million million has the right combination of chemicals, temperature, water, days and nights to support planetary life as we know it. This calculation arrives at the estimated figure of 100 million worlds where life has been forged by evolution."

So the probability out there is pretty strong.

If Earth was created as the only place God wanted his special creation, then why did he go to the trouble of creating all those other galaxies, solar systems, suns and planets billions of light years away and constantly moving farther and farther away? Are they just for us to look up at in the night sky and use for navigation before we invented GPS? If they are just out there for us to look at and navigate by, then why not just create an umbrella of stationary cosmic lights surrounding Earth and call it good?


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Nearly all stars have planets and most planets have moons. The odd's of there being life elsewhere in the Universe are significantly higher than most stupid probability models. The odd's of there being intelligent life elsewhere are also high. We know that we are in a younger part of the galaxy and an even younger part of the Universe. For a living specie we are significantly new in comparison to the age of our planet and other species on our own planet.

Odd's are, the more highly advanced and technologically capable species out there that have been around for millions of years longer than us have already met each other. They probably have a scale that shows how far along a species should be in order to catch up with them. Considering the timescale and duration of things across the Universe their scale will show that we are brand new babies and we aint sh1t. They have no reason to come here or mess with us. We have no resources that they would ever need. We are not special in the eyes of aliens and we are probably not even worth an elementary school level experiment to them.

They probably know what the question for 42 is.


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Well, why did satan have to fall here, to this earth? and Why did God say that this earth would be destroyed, and He was going to build a new heaven and a new earth? What happened or happens to all the others?


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Well, why did satan have to fall here, to this earth? and Why did God say that this earth would be destroyed, and He was going to build a new heaven and a new earth? What happened or happens to all the others?
Maybe they’re heaven?
I don’t know. Way above my pay grade

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Originally Posted by TensawRiver
Well, why did satan have to fall here, to this earth? and Why did God say that this earth would be destroyed, and He was going to build a new heaven and a new earth? What happened or happens to all the others?

You'll have to ask the Aliens. They'll be here shortly after the 10 year Treasury bond yield goes over %5.


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Originally Posted by ford150man
I saw a pastor I follow on line, talking about aliens the other day and referenced Ephesians 2:2, where Satan is called “the prince of power of the air”. He made a really compelling argument about the lights, ufo, and other phenomenon people see in the sky as being demons. Basically preparing people’s minds for believing deceptions as prophesied in 2 Thessalonians 2:11. It’s way too long and much to type and make the case here, but I encourage you to try and find his video. Whether he’s right or not, I was really interesting.

as we all know, pastors are *always* right


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Really sure I saw 2-3 Aliens yesterday. These 3 were walking around a ball park. Army boots blue hair one was red blue striped,multi chains around their necks and belt. One was well decorated hooks and piercings in lips,ears and nose. Dressed in black. Not sure which team they were pulling for.

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High oil and gas prices are pure Alien bait. The higher those prices go the more people see aliens.
Its also true that for every time Epstein's name gets mentioned in the media, an alien sighting occurs.


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I wonder about the sightings as in if they are intentional by the operator(s) or if something happened to the craft/object and it lost its ability to remain cloaked. Maybe a flux capacitor failure of some sort.

I've seen a couple of things that defy every known ability of human creation in the way they moved and I believe that there is life on other planets.


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What kind of fuel milage does their spacecrafts get?

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What kind of fuel milage does their spacecrafts get?

They got Eclectic Engines.


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What kind of fuel milage does their spacecrafts get?

They got Eclectic Engines.

Probably manufactured in Excel.


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A really interesting conversation but the important thing is that, as Christians, we not let this, however it plays out shake our faith. I think there will be a lot of things happen in the final days before the Second Coming that are meant to check our faith. I also believe that there are many things that God never intended for us to understand during our time here on earth.


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A really interesting conversation but the important thing is that, as Christians, we not let this, however it plays out shake our faith. I think there will be a lot of things happen in the final days before the Second Coming that are meant to check our faith. I also believe that there are many things that God never intended for us to understand during our time here on earth.
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Originally Posted by jawbone
A really interesting conversation but the important thing is that, as Christians, we not let this, however it plays out shake our faith. I think there will be a lot of things happen in the final days before the Second Coming that are meant to check our faith. I also believe that there are many things that God never intended for us to understand during our time here on earth.

If your relationship with God is where it should be then nothing revealed to you in the coming times will change your understanding of God. It may change your understanding of the World and the Universe, but it won't change you understanding of God.

I have already made the assumption, based on logical deduction, that there are other planets that have intelligent life, yet I still follow God and have faith in Jesus.


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Originally Posted by Irishguy
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So...

If space is boundless, then why would anyone think that we, on this tiny rock, in an ocean of galaxies, are the only one to have intelligent life on it? (And I use the term "intelligent" very loosely.)

Jesus

Yep.


So if someone believes in Jesus then that automatically precludes them from understanding probability? I don't think so... Not only do I believe in Jesus, but I also have faith in him and a personal relationship with him, yet I still conclude that there should be other civilizations out there on other planets, simply because of probability and logic.

Has anyone ever heard of the Drake Equation? It is estimate that the the Universe has 10 million million suns similar enough to our own to sustain life.

"The universe has 10 million, million, million suns (10 followed by 18 zeros) similar to our own. One in a million has planets around it. Only one in a million million has the right combination of chemicals, temperature, water, days and nights to support planetary life as we know it. This calculation arrives at the estimated figure of 100 million worlds where life has been forged by evolution."

So the probability out there is pretty strong.

If Earth was created as the only place God wanted his special creation, then why did he go to the trouble of creating all those other galaxies, solar systems, suns and planets billions of light years away and constantly moving farther and farther away? Are they just for us to look up at in the night sky and use for navigation before we invented GPS? If they are just out there for us to look at and navigate by, then why not just create an umbrella of stationary cosmic lights surrounding Earth and call it good?


Those are questions that you will have to ask Him one day. None of us will know these types of things unless He wants us to know. You could take your logic and also say that just because Humans estimate that creation is that big doesn’t mean that it really is. We’ve been to the moon, and some people even debate that. With all the crazy stuff in the Bible, it could be easily said that we are wrong. I’m not saying that you are wrong or right, I’m just saying that if you are right, you could also be wrong. 🤣

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