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Freak of Nature
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Iran claims they mined the main channel and normal shipping lanes in the straight. That's what the toll deal is about , now the ships passing must travel in their waters. I don't understand how we would let that happen after the war started . Are the Iranians lying about the mines? Like I said in another post. Thats how mines work. Nobody wants to find out the hard way if they lied or not. How could they have laid them after the war started with all the eyes in the sky and high tech we have and we not know it?
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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$3.49 in Hazel Green a few minutes ago when I filled up.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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I’ve got a decent Exxon position where I missed the first peak. I’d actually like to see a couple of power plants and a few key bridges get turned to dust this week. Fingers crossed…
I was hedging against fuel prices while collecting a healthy dividend since Covid and it wasn’t my full intention really.
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Iran claims they mined the main channel and normal shipping lanes in the straight. That's what the toll deal is about , now the ships passing must travel in their waters. I don't understand how we would let that happen after the war started . Are the Iranians lying about the mines? Like I said in another post. Thats how mines work. Nobody wants to find out the hard way if they lied or not. How could they have laid them after the war started with all the eyes in the sky and high tech we have and we not know it? We cant watch everything all the time and Iran knows it. They also have been planning for this kind of attack for decades. They aint stupid.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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How bad was gas prices under Biden?
Heard national average was still a dollar more than now
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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I’ve got a decent Exxon position where I missed the first peak. I’d actually like to see a couple of power plants and a few key bridges get turned to dust this week. Fingers crossed…
I was hedging against fuel prices while collecting a healthy dividend since Covid and it wasn’t my full intention really. Just so I understand… you want civilians without power and the infrastructure destroyed so you can profit off of it? Gotcha…
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Iran claims they mined the main channel and normal shipping lanes in the straight. That's what the toll deal is about , now the ships passing must travel in their waters. I don't understand how we would let that happen after the war started . Are the Iranians lying about the mines? Like I said in another post. Thats how mines work. Nobody wants to find out the hard way if they lied or not. How could they have laid them after the war started with all the eyes in the sky and high tech we have and we not know it? We cant watch everything all the time and Iran knows it. They also have been planning for this kind of attack for decades. They aint stupid. And we've been planning for it too.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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How bad was gas prices under Biden?
Heard national average was still a dollar more than now And I'll bet $ high prices under Biden will prove to be much longer than under DJT.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Ultimately the price of oil will be whatever price Scott Bessent wants it to be. They will manipulate it from its true price regardless of how many people it puts out of business.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Iran claims they mined the main channel and normal shipping lanes in the straight. That's what the toll deal is about , now the ships passing must travel in their waters. I don't understand how we would let that happen after the war started . Are the Iranians lying about the mines? Like I said in another post. Thats how mines work. Nobody wants to find out the hard way if they lied or not. Couldn't we just carpet bomb the water in the straights and that would clear the mines? Or at least a straight path through there.
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Iran claims they mined the main channel and normal shipping lanes in the straight. That's what the toll deal is about , now the ships passing must travel in their waters. I don't understand how we would let that happen after the war started . Are the Iranians lying about the mines? Like I said in another post. Thats how mines work. Nobody wants to find out the hard way if they lied or not. Couldn't we just carpet bomb the water in the straights and that would clear the mines? 21 miles wide by 75 miles long by however deep it is. That might take a while and be cost prohibitive.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Iran claims they mined the main channel and normal shipping lanes in the straight. That's what the toll deal is about , now the ships passing must travel in their waters. I don't understand how we would let that happen after the war started . Are the Iranians lying about the mines? Like I said in another post. Thats how mines work. Nobody wants to find out the hard way if they lied or not. Couldn't we just carpet bomb the water in the straights and that would clear the mines? 21 miles wide by 75 miles long by however deep it is. That might take a while and be cost prohibitive. Just a straight path up the middle or such. Seems doable. Maybe something they have can do the job.
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Any one remember this- During the 1980s "Tanker War" (a phase of the Iran-Iraq War), Iran was the primary actor responsible for planting naval mines in the Persian Gulf. These actions aimed to disrupt shipping traffic, leading to significant damage to merchant vessels and US Navy ships, such as the USS Samuel B. Roberts in 1988. I do which highlights Iran should have been dealt with decades ago which would not have brought Iran to be allowed to the brink of having nuclear weapons.
John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life".
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Could've just stopped there Go under my name there’s an ignore button. Press it. You first
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Ultimately the price of oil will be whatever price Scott Bessent wants it to be. They will manipulate it from its true price regardless of how many people it puts out of business. Speculators gonna speculate
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Doing the best I can.
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Could've just stopped there Go under my name there’s an ignore button. Press it. You first The sexual tension between you two is off the charts.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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21 miles wide by 75 miles long by however deep it is. That might take a while and be cost prohibitive. Just a straight path up the middle or such. Seems doable. Maybe something they have can do the job. How about go grab the Iranian tankers and various ships, line them up beside one another, and make passes up and down the area of concern. Seems like a no brainer to me. Once it is complete, I might drop a mine at the port in their parking spot.
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21 miles wide by 75 miles long by however deep it is. That might take a while and be cost prohibitive. Just a straight path up the middle or such. Seems doable. Maybe something they have can do the job. How about go grab the Iranian tankers and various ships, line them up beside one another, and make passes up and down the area of concern. Seems like a no brainer to me. Once it is complete, I might drop a mine at the port in their parking spot. Sounds good , till one of those big SOBs hits a mine and sinks , permanently blocking the channel.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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You just watched ships pass through there last week. You are also asking me to believe that our Military and intelligence have not
been paying attention to boat activity in the Straight. That's absurd. Think Caribbean Drug Boats.
So the "approved" for passage Tankers have had all the Mine coordinates so they can avoid them right ?
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You just watched ships pass through there last week. You are also asking me to believe that our Military and intelligence have not
been paying attention to boat activity in the Straight. That's absurd. Think Caribbean Drug Boats.
So the "approved" for passage Tankers have had all the Mine coordinates so they can avoid them right ? Very possible. I don't think the ships that have been passing went through the normal channel. They’re been traveling just north of it in Iranian waters, that's why the Iranians think they can control who passes and charge a toll. Least that's what I glean from the news, but who knows the straight of it?
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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