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Originally Posted by Backwards cowboy
Seems like the worlds greatest negotiator, aint so good , at negotiations! Just like everything else he does, great at talking. Not so much at doing!

It is impossible to negotiate with insanity or ignorance, regardless of how skilled the negotiator might be.

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Pacifist approach has proven in due time to rarely if ever be the correct approach to correct an issue with a Rouge nation or empires throughout history. Just sit back and allow a bunch of extremist continue to stockpile drones and missles, and don’t worry about them developing a nuclear bomb- Defintion of a pacifist approach. Anyone who thinks that is the correct way to go about dealing with Rouge/ Extremist Iran tell Us how that is the best approach.


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Originally Posted by Narrow Gap
Since the Muslims took over Iran in 1979 and established an Islamic Republic, that government has been screaming Death to America/ Death to Israel till today. If that is not enough to see what is happening to Iran, has not been brought upon them by Iran’s own actions and behavior then perhaps You are Ok with letting Iran obtain nuclear weapon and use it on Infidel’s as Iran thinks all non-believers in Islam should cease to exist. I would much rather take the fight to them on their soil and far away from Our soil to solve the problem of a Radical Iran.

Us meddling in their affairs is what brought this regime around. Just like meddling in others gave rise to Osama Bin Laden. Every action in the Middle East has a butterfly ripple action.

And yes just like was said, Iraq had nukes too supposedly. Did we “destroy” their nuclear capabilities last year, or are they “2 weeks away”?

You can be an administration who is friendly and works with Israel or you can be an administration that folds and acts as Israel’s puppet. We’re fighting their war, doing their bidding, considering a ground invasion, bitchin out NATO for not helping (NATO is a defensive pact not offensive) and Israel straight up said “nah we ain’t sending ground troops.”

We just need to stay the hell out of the Middle East and if president trump was a real negotiator he wouldn’t be screaming tantrums on Twitter/Truth. The phrase was “Speak softly and carry a big stick” not “give deranged rants on twitter”. In fact his Twitter/Truth Social episodes make it so easy to show dozens if not hundreds of cases of where Trump contradicts Trump, like the Tweet I shared.

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Originally Posted by Narrow Gap
Since the Muslims took over Iran in 1979 and established an Islamic Republic, that government has been screaming Death to America/ Death to Israel till today. If that is not enough to see what is happening to Iran, has not been brought upon them by Iran’s own actions and behavior then perhaps You are Ok with letting Iran obtain nuclear weapon and use it on Infidel’s as Iran thinks all non-believers in Islam should cease to exist. I would much rather take the fight to them on their soil and far away from Our soil to solve the problem of a Radical Iran.

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Honestly, I’m going to ruffle some of your feathers I’d suppose, when I say this…..

I’ve always supported most of Donald’s policies. I’ll never agree with anyone 100% of the time. He’s also been what we needed at times due to his direct nature BUT, this post is in very poor taste. He should not have done it. He says a lot in poor taste, and I try to overlook most of it. This however, doesn’t need to be ignored or overlooked. I don’t make a habit of using profane language, but I’m around a lot of folks who do. That’s fine. Their choice. To post what he did publicly, with the profanity, on one of the most sacred of Christian celebrations worldwide, and throw the sarcasm in mocking them is just really not necessary. I don’t like it. He’s a dang fool.

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Gotta give Iran some smart-ass points for this one. laugh

BREAKING: Iranian Embassy tweets “we’ve lost the keys” after Trump’s Truth Social post demanding they open the strait.


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After reading some of the opinions on Aldeer and the dissatisfaction with Trump, I am getting myself prepared for a Limp wristed Democrat to be The United States next President. Some folks claim they don’t like Liberal policies but without realizing they do in fact like Liberal pacifist limp wristed policies.

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This is the stuff from him that I don't like. If nothing else, have respect for the very office that you hold, President of the United States of America. But no, just give the dems, and everyone else reason to speak out against you.


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Originally Posted by Narrow Gap
Pacifist approach has proven in due time to rarely if ever be the correct approach to correct an issue with a Rouge nation or empires throughout history. Just sit back and allow a bunch of extremist continue to stockpile drones and missles, and don’t worry about them developing a nuclear bomb- Defintion of a pacifist approach. Anyone who thinks that is the correct way to go about dealing with Rouge/ Extremist Iran tell Us how that is the best approach.

First, how and why are you equating opposition to targeting civilian infrastructure to being a pacifist. There’s no reason to needlessly make innocent people suffer or die. We’re better than that.

Secondly, if you’re Christian why do you fear? If Iran obtained a nuke, and truly intended to use it, do you not trust in God’s absolute sovereignty? If they used it or didn’t, it wouldn’t be within our control anyway. Your fear is unwarranted, those in Christ have already won, no matter what happens to us in this life. Nothing happens outside of His control and authority. Now if you’re not a believer then I understand your fear.

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Originally Posted by bowhunter86
Originally Posted by Narrow Gap
Pacifist approach has proven in due time to rarely if ever be the correct approach to correct an issue with a Rouge nation or empires throughout history. Just sit back and allow a bunch of extremist continue to stockpile drones and missles, and don’t worry about them developing a nuclear bomb- Defintion of a pacifist approach. Anyone who thinks that is the correct way to go about dealing with Rouge/ Extremist Iran tell Us how that is the best approach.

First, how and why are you equating opposition to targeting civilian infrastructure to being a pacifist. There’s no reason to needlessly make innocent people suffer or die. We’re better than that.

Secondly, if you’re Christian why do you fear? If Iran obtained a nuke, and truly intended to use it, do you not trust in God’s absolute sovereignty? If they used it or didn’t, it wouldn’t be within our control anyway. Your fear is unwarranted, those in Christ have already won, no matter what happens to us in this life. Nothing happens outside of His control and authority. Now if you’re not a believer then I understand your fear.
I am not one for sticking my head in the Iranian sand and sitting back and allowing a situation to fester in allowing a Rouge extremist Iran to continue to build up its military and gain nuclear weapon capabilities and I think that is clear in my opinion which my opinion ain’t worth 1 cent. I agree the battle is over and it is won. I am a Christian and was born into families from all sides that are believers in Christ and the promise of everlasting life through Christ and repentance in belief that Christ suffered and died for Our Sins. With all that said I am not for Pacifist ideals. If Pacifism worked then me and you and the rest of Us on aldeer would not be allowed to speak out against Our government and President since Our Founding Fathers were obviously not Pacifist and chose to stand up and fight against evil and that is exactly what Iran is- Evil. We all know that we are not changing any minds when it comes to politics.


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In case some don’t realize this far along in life we are not high enough on the food chain to know or get the truth about anything dealing with foreign policy or even some domestic matters. The ones who know the truth are the oligarchs of society and steer the rest of society where they want us to go and what they want us to believe. Presidents don’t have the final say that’s just a myth. The ones with enormous wealth make those decisions so we will never know the real reasons for conflict not because we should know but only because they don’t want u to know and won’t tell u. Money and power rules everything but God so until then the money and power will keep us running in circles that’s just how it is. Lately I’ve just tuned out because it’s just more information designed to confuse and question which is exactly what those pulling the strings want and in the end there’s not a dam thing we can do about anything except watch it play out however it does. We always pay the price not the oligarchs and always will. Cogs in the wheel as the saying goes.

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Originally Posted by Skinny
I agree none of them will ever really be our allies. The problem is that some of them are thinking about kicking our military bases out of their countries right now. Oman and Bahrain are seriously thinking about it.

And you know that how while sitting in AL? Please enlighten us, and use some citations. Thank you.

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Wolfdog. Your name even matches a Democrat.

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I agree none of them will ever really be our allies. The problem is that some of them are thinking about kicking our military bases out of their countries right now. Oman and Bahrain are seriously thinking about it.

And you know that how? Please enlighten us, and use some citations. Thank you.

I'm not going to go dig the posts up on X but its easy to find them. Both Oman and Bahrain news stories have been reporting that they are considering Iran's ideas for taking control of the strait and sharing toll fees. Bahrain and Oman are majority Shia populations and this war is causing them a lot of stress. Despite the pretty good deal they have with the US right now, they very well could change their minds.


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I agree none of them will ever really be our allies. The problem is that some of them are thinking about kicking our military bases out of their countries right now. Oman and Bahrain are seriously thinking about it.

And you know that how? Please enlighten us, and use some citations. Thank you.

I'm not going to go dig the posts up on X but its easy to find them. Both Oman and Bahrain news stories have been reporting that they are considering Iran's ideas for taking control of the strait and sharing toll fees. Bahrain and Oman are majority Shia populations and this war is causing them a lot of stress. Despite the pretty good deal they have with the US right now, they very well could change their minds.

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yep, using that language only weakens him. what do you expect from a new yorker billionaire.

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Honestly, I’m going to ruffle some of your feathers I’d suppose, when I say this…..

I’ve always supported most of Donald’s policies. I’ll never agree with anyone 100% of the time. He’s also been what we needed at times due to his direct nature BUT, this post is in very poor taste. He should not have done it. He says a lot in poor taste, and I try to overlook most of it. This however, doesn’t need to be ignored or overlooked. I don’t make a habit of using profane language, but I’m around a lot of folks who do. That’s fine. Their choice. To post what he did publicly, with the profanity, on one of the most sacred of Christian celebrations worldwide, and throw the sarcasm in mocking them is just really not necessary. I don’t like it. He’s a dang fool.
Matt Brock I like you but will have to disagree with a couple of points. Number 1 when Elijah was battling the prophets of Baal he mocked them to their face. As they were chanting and cutting themselves he told them to scream a little louder to wake Baal up the reason he did this he was battling Satan himself just like we are with Iran. We have already been further divided as a nation because of them. Number 2 this is going to ruffle some feathers but I am used to it. The 5th chapter of Mathew tells us not to call anyone a fool because its a sin of anger. Now I am going to work. Pwyse you said there is nothing but the blood of Christ and evil. If you would study a little harder you might discover Iran is evil and an enemy of God. Several of us have tried to explain the situation but we cant understand it for you.

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Originally Posted by jaredhunts
We have no allies at this point that are Muslim.

The entire world would love nothing more than America to fall. That would prove that authoritarian government is the only way to govern.


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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
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We have no allies at this point that are Muslim.

The entire world would love nothing more than America to fall. That would prove that authoritarian government is the only way to govern.
By authoritarian government you mean how Trump governs?

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They said death to America and should suffer the consequences.

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