Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by ALclearcut
Originally Posted by Mbrock
The primary stress is stress on the doe from conception to birth. Her fitness and health determines which epigenetic triggers flip for the life of the offspring. Healthy does drop fawns genetically programmed for higher gene expression. If they’ve grown up in a suppressed environment their gene expression is suppressed
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That MSU study showing how doe health/nutrition not only impacts the genetic expression of her offspring, but also her grandchildren is fascinating to me. “Genetically inferior” piney woods deer from South MS were even with or outproducing Delta bucks in body weight and antlers when given the same food and environment, but only after both their grandmother and mother were born in the nutritious healthy environment. Mothers living in poor conditions program their offspring for 2 generations to limit their size/weight/antlers in order to reduce their calorie and nutritional needs, and therefore their likelihood of survival in what will likely be a poor environment for them as well.

The same effect is seen in humans. South Korean women today are 8 inches taller on average than the early 1900’s. British Americans living in the colonies became increasingly taller than their British counterparts. Same genetics, but multiple generations of improved nutrition and environment.
Yep. I tell my clients it’s a minimum of 5 years before they’ll see any noticeable gains once I start working with them. It’s the fawns born into better conditions that show the change, and then, their offspring. Each generation shows improvement, but it takes drastic changes in habitat and herd structure. Nothing happens as quickly as people want it to.

I’m curious how you overcome the challenge of yearling buck dispersal? If I have 1,000 acres of near perfect habitat, I am growing amazing does who are birthing full genetic potential bucks who will permanently leave my farm in a year, while almost all my bucks are coming from neighboring farms. I can provide for those bucks to express as good as they can, but if they were born on a sub-optimal farm, I can’t ever achieve the multi-generational benefits found in the MSU study.

Is the goal to “play the odds” and focus on those 25% or so of yearling bucks that won’t disperse or don’t disperse very far?