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7mm mag is 40% cheaper than .280 6.5 PRC is 10% cheaper than .280 7 PRC costs 60% more than 7mm mag
The magnum and PRC rifles hold 3 cartridges versus 4 of the .280 or .280AI. The AI ammo costs 10% more than 7 PRC. Ammunition cost is insignificant to most hunters, especially compared to the cost of rifles, scopes, binoculars, clothes, boots, trucks, fuel, ATV/UTV's, leases, plane tickets, feeders, in state/out of state hunting licenses, stands, box blinds, ad infinitum. I buy the best/most accurate ammo I can find, and including sighting in/target practice, I average about 3-5 rounds per animal. Again, insignificant compared to all the other hunting expenses. Ammo cost should be the last concern anyone has if they are an avid hunter. What do you mean you average 3-5 rounds per animal I zero the rifle, which is usually 3-8 rounds, depending on the rifle and how close the chamber is to my laser bore sight. Usually 3 rounds. Then, I shoot a few more for group size/ammo test. After that, I will use that rifle to hunt for a season or two. It either earns a forever place, or I send it somewhere else. Most critters die with one shot, and I kill 4-8 for the freezer almost every year, including hogs. 5 critters=5 rounds, plus 8-12 for the initial sighting and playing. If you figure one full box, unless I'm really having fun on a long range target, divided by 5 critters, 4 rounds per critter average.
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7mm mag is 40% cheaper than .280 6.5 PRC is 10% cheaper than .280 7 PRC costs 60% more than 7mm mag
The magnum and PRC rifles hold 3 cartridges versus 4 of the .280 or .280AI. The AI ammo costs 10% more than 7 PRC. Ammunition cost is insignificant to most hunters, especially compared to the cost of rifles, scopes, binoculars, clothes, boots, trucks, fuel, ATV/UTV's, leases, plane tickets, feeders, in state/out of state hunting licenses, stands, box blinds, ad infinitum. I buy the best/most accurate ammo I can find, and including sighting in/target practice, I average about 3-5 rounds per animal. Again, insignificant compared to all the other hunting expenses. Ammo cost should be the last concern anyone has if they are an avid hunter. That's not anywhere near enough ammo for learning your rifle and keeping on top of your zero. It's a real deficiency. I always see hunters running out of ammo at the range. They'll say that's close enough when they start to run out. And then leave. For me, it is. I can't speak for most on Aldeer, but I do know several others here that would fall into the same category. @Joshm28, for one. He's one of the few folks I know that I won't shoot against for money. In the last 20 years, I have shot over 5,000 rounds out of numerous centerfire rifles, and I shoot an average of 2000 rounds per year of rimfire to stay sharp. If a rifle doesn't fit me, I don't buy it. Most rifles I do buy get a new trigger before a scope gets mounted. As a challenge from a buddy, I hunted my mule deer with a new, factory stock, Tikka. 358 yards, dead deer. That being said, I won't shoot at a game animal further than 500 yards, just because I understand flight time and don't want to chance wounding a critter that took a step when the trigger broke. Hogs, coyotes, etc., I don't have a self imposed limit. My best 100 yard group is 5 rounds from a Remington 788 in 22-250 that could be covered with a dime. Exactly .28 center to center, less than .4 extreme spread. My .264 Win Mag shot 5 into 6" at 850 yards. These are hunting rifles, not target rifles. I also practice freehand/offhand, and have killed a deer at 225 yards, standing with no rest. Based on this, I learn new rifles pretty quick, and I never accept "good enough", regardless of how much ammo or work I need to put into the rifle, even if I need to send it to a good gunsmith or have a custom load worked up. Some rifles are just picky. The ones that shoot great with factory ammo, mostly stay here. I joke that I have been married to the same woman for almost 38 years, and am allowed no variety in that arena, so I get my variety by playing with new calibers. I have owned 2 different 6.5 PRC rifles, and sold both, as I really like the .264 Win Mag that I have, and neither did as well on critters as my .280 Ackley.
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[quote=Pwyse]I’m getting the 7mm PRC in a ruger rifle for the next gun I get. And I’m getting it because it’s cool and I like rugers. Not because of some numbers and coefficients and weights, but because it’s cool.
I hope they are still making bullets for it in the near future. Its only about a 100fps more than a 7mm rem mag with the same weight bullet but the only reason to get a new gun is because you think it's cool and you like it 100 more fps is preeeeetty fast if you ask me. Plus it says PRC. I heard it don’t kick as bad and the 7 mag and the 300 mag[/ I’ve heard early reports that it was faster, but now factory ammo is super slow. Report back what your factory ammo chronos. I'm running hand loads, but getting 3140fps avg out of a 24" barrel with 175g Berger ELH
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[quote=Pwyse]I’m getting the 7mm PRC in a ruger rifle for the next gun I get. And I’m getting it because it’s cool and I like rugers. Not because of some numbers and coefficients and weights, but because it’s cool.
I hope they are still making bullets for it in the near future. Its only about a 100fps more than a 7mm rem mag with the same weight bullet but the only reason to get a new gun is because you think it's cool and you like it 100 more fps is preeeeetty fast if you ask me. Plus it says PRC. I heard it don’t kick as bad and the 7 mag and the 300 mag[/ I’ve heard early reports that it was faster, but now factory ammo is super slow. Report back what your factory ammo chronos. I'm running hand loads, but getting 3140fps avg out of a 24" barrel with 175g Berger ELH The factory ammo, Hornady specifically, supposedly got way slower after the first rollout. What powder are you using?
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The factory ammo, Hornady specifically, supposedly got way slower after the first rollout. What powder are you using? From what I remember, Hornady changed their recipe but left the box data the same. I shot some and it was around 2800. From my notes, Federal 175eldx was the most accurate factory loads I shot. 3009fps avg. & shot a .64MOA group at 100yds. I'm using 76.7g of N568. SD is around 4. consistently 1/2 MOA at 600yds, sometimes I'll squeak out a 1/4 MOA group. Here is a 7 shot group from two weeks ago. 8-10mph gusts from my 8 o'clock. Didn't hold for wind, you can see the center 4 were between gusts. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/kGQW1FP6/IMG-2164.jpg)
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The factory ammo, Hornady specifically, supposedly got way slower after the first rollout. What powder are you using? From what I remember, Hornady changed their recipe but left the box data the same. I shot some and it was around 2800. From my notes, Federal 175eldx was the most accurate factory loads I shot. 3009fps avg. & shot a .64MOA group at 100yds. I'm using 76.7g of N568. SD is around 4. consistently 1/2 MOA at 600yds, sometimes I'll squeak out a 1/4 MOA group. Here is a 7 shot group from two weeks ago. 8-10mph gusts from my 8 o'clock. Didn't hold for wind, you can see the center 4 were between gusts. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/kGQW1FP6/IMG-2164.jpg) Very nice. Handloading is definitely the way to go.
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The factory ammo, Hornady specifically, supposedly got way slower after the first rollout. What powder are you using? From what I remember, Hornady changed their recipe but left the box data the same. I shot some and it was around 2800. From my notes, Federal 175eldx was the most accurate factory loads I shot. 3009fps avg. & shot a .64MOA group at 100yds. I'm using 76.7g of N568. SD is around 4. consistently 1/2 MOA at 600yds, sometimes I'll squeak out a 1/4 MOA group. Here is a 7 shot group from two weeks ago. 8-10mph gusts from my 8 o'clock. Didn't hold for wind, you can see the center 4 were between gusts. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/kGQW1FP6/IMG-2164.jpg) Very nice. Handloading is definitely the way to go. No kidding. Very impressive
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7mm mag is 40% cheaper than .280 6.5 PRC is 10% cheaper than .280 7 PRC costs 60% more than 7mm mag
The magnum and PRC rifles hold 3 cartridges versus 4 of the .280 or .280AI. The AI ammo costs 10% more than 7 PRC. Try buying .338 rum ammo Just looked up some 308 Warbird Ammo, it's $189.99 plus tax (possibly shipping) reckon glad i got a box and half left 🫣🤣🤣🤣 Dang id forgot about those Lazeroni rounds and guns. I bet that thing flat out stomps a deer down.
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On the business end..... You just aren't going to be impressed with anything over your existing 280 with a 6.5 PRC. That's just not happening. I've shot all the 6.5's for 40 years.
You need to look at Weatherby or Nosler calibers. You'll see a difference then.
What I am saying is .280 is pretty darn good. 6.5 anything isn't going to best it. You need to go the other way..... or give up and join Aldeer's very own .243 club. That option is always on the table as well.
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280AI and even the 7mm Mashburn are kinda sweet rounds
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