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Wow recruiting raising money facilities jobs winning poaching players sounds like these private schools are parents that want better for their children. Them low down dirty so and sos.
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We don't recruit in Luverne AL! In these small towns that are nowhere close to bigger towns you play with what you have.
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It’s worse in the smaller schools where one or two kids can make or break a team. In baseball it’s the pitchers. Our little 1A school went to the state twice and got put out by private schools. I PROMISE nobody can or will recruit to where we are. You’re either born here or MAY move here for a job. Wed get to the playoffs and a private school would have 1-2 boys that can throw 80-90 and we’re toast. We don’t see that around here. We got put out in the basketball state championship by another private school with Div 1 recruits from Atlanta and Bham. No way that’s fair. Every boy on our team lives here. I get Thompson, Auburn, etc are recruiting but small schools aren’t. Something needs to be done. Why can’t they have their own “private” association? Pretty sure Mississippi already does MAIS.
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Trying to say there's no deference in private and public school recruiting is just plain stupid. The public schools just need individuals to live in specific areas. Private schools are giving scholarships that include tuition and fees being waved, there's no comparison. When my son played in the west mobile park league they were offered during middle school years lol. There are even states allowing NIL deals to HS athletes lol. Just dumb
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Trying to say there's no deference in private and public school recruiting is just plain stupid. The public schools just need individuals to live in specific areas. Private schools are giving scholarships that include tuition and fees being waved, there's no comparison. When my son played in the west mobile park league they were offered during middle school years lol. City run school systems are doing the same thing
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This is a horseshit post with a lot of people like our friend in the northwest and original poster not knowing what is going on in high school sports.
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It's pretty obvious from some of these comments that there's a lot of assumptions made that aren't factual. For instance, it's not as simple as "go work hard and raise the money". In some systems, and I've had experience in one of them, school boards put strict limitations on how monies can be raised and in some instances how monies that are raised can be spent. The last sentence you wrote isn't even a close comparison. No one is asking for preferential treatment... only that there's a somewhat level playing field. And right now in the AHSAA, there isn't one and eventually they will have to do something about it. As someone who played football at one of these private schools (Briarwood) & was on a team that went to the state championship, I'll share my thoughts. High school football, aside from 6a-7a, can be dominated by hard work/discipline. IMO, that's why you see private schools perform so well in the lower divisions. The players on those private school teams have parents who are successful + involved in their lives, and the kids are products of that. We routinely beat the dogshit out of way more athletic teams. Not because of recruiting or resources, but because you had a group of kids who typically had solid character, work ethics, & intelligence.
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Trying to say there's no deference in private and public school recruiting is just plain stupid. The public schools just need individuals to live in specific areas. Private schools are giving scholarships that include tuition and fees being waved, there's no comparison. When my son played in the west mobile park league they were offered during middle school years lol. City run school systems are doing the same thing I live close to a "public" school that was in the playoffs. They've recruited my son and several others from nearby county, private and city schools. They give a "scholarship" to athletes. Regular students can attend and pay $X amount. This school will require the athlete to be held back if he is of a certain age. They have been doing this for several years and have been very successful. I agree with Atoler. I think a lot of it has to do with the parents being involved. Our private school has had success against larger schools and I promise you it was not because we had more talent.
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Trying to say there's no deference in private and public school recruiting is just plain stupid. The public schools just need individuals to live in specific areas. Private schools are giving scholarships that include tuition and fees being waved, there's no comparison. When my son played in the west mobile park league they were offered during middle school years lol. City run school systems are doing the same thing I live close to a "public" school that was in the playoffs. They've recruited my son and several others from nearby county, private and city schools. They give a "scholarship" to athletes. Regular students can attend and pay $X amount. This school will require the athlete to be held back if he is of a certain age. They have been doing this for several years and have been very successful. I agree with Atoler. I think a lot of it has to do with the parents being involved. Our private school has had success against larger schools and I promise you it was not because we had more talent. Are yall talking Aisa or Ahsaa?
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They’re not AISA schools are they? If the private schools are taking the government money then they can play ball in the AHSA. Catholic in Montgomery played in the AHSA a long time. The AHSAA has nothing to do with the government. It is an association of schools that play against each other for sports. It is not run by the state. It is a non profit organization. It’s not the “public school league”. It’s just a league. Sure some schools recruit and that’s been going on for years. It’s far more than just recruiting though - it’s the resources. And the multiplier doesn’t solve the issues. It’s the same argument every year. It’s not private schools, it’s resources in most cases. It’s the haves and the haves not. Why do you expect these to be equal? There is no rule about how many resources a school can apply to its football program. So why don’t the public schools apply more resources to it? Because they choose not to. “We can’t afford it” is garbage. Go work hard and raise the money. Make it a priority and apply some energy to it. It’s such a socialist attitude to want to separate people because they have worked hard to apply resources to a program and the outcome is better than yours. Do you think black people from poor families should get preference over kids that come from hard working families as far as college goes? Of course not. It’s the same attitude you are applying to this situation. It's pretty obvious from some of these comments that there's a lot of assumptions made that aren't factual. For instance, it's not as simple as "go work hard and raise the money". In some systems, and I've had experience in one of them, school boards put strict limitations on how monies can be raised and in some instances how monies that are raised can be spent. The last sentence you wrote isn't even a close comparison. No one is asking for preferential treatment... only that there's a somewhat level playing field. And right now in the AHSAA, there isn't one and eventually they will have to do something about it. It is that simple. It’s EXACTLY what I said it is and you reinforced it. You said the school system limits itself on what it can spend money on. That is exactly what I said it was. They are choosing not to make it a priority. Level the playing field… that’s exactly what the goal was when preferential treatment was given to black poor people. You need to go read the rules per the AHSAA rule book and see exactly what private schools are allowed to do that public schools are not. Read it and please tell me what rule is keeping it from being a level playing field. You know there isn’t one. A public school can spend what they want on athletics. So can a private school. If you read it you will see that there ARE rules that put private schools at a disadvantage. 2 rules to be exact. 1. The multiplier and 2. the success penalty. It amazes me that red blooded southern Americans don’t get this. If a public school like Hoover or Saraland has success for 3, 4, 5 years in a row everyone claps and says good job. St. Paul’s does it and people think it’s unfair and have to figure out a way to hold them back. You don’t want to raise your standard to be successful but you wanna penalize someone else for doing it. Absolutely insane. I tell you what’s gonna happen if people keep belly aching about this. The big private schools are going to leave the AHSAA and take a bunch of public schools with them and start their own association. Then the AHSAA will be left with a bunch of crappy, poor programs that no talent is going to want to play for or against. The gap will get wider. Why do you think the AHSAA hasn’t pushed it any further? They know what will happen. Private school’s pay the same amount of money to be in the AHSAA as public schools do. So the money isn’t hardly any different. Private schools do travel in the playoffs better and that’s the only gate money that the AHSAA gets.
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Trying to say there's no deference in private and public school recruiting is just plain stupid. The public schools just need individuals to live in specific areas. Private schools are giving scholarships that include tuition and fees being waved, there's no comparison. When my son played in the west mobile park league they were offered during middle school years lol. City run school systems are doing the same thing Every kid on the public school team is on scholarship. Zero public school players pay to go to school there. Unless it’s a city school and the kid lives out of the school zone. Tell me again why a private school letting a kid go to school for free is an advantage over a public school letting a kid go there for free?
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It’s worse in the smaller schools where one or two kids can make or break a team. In baseball it’s the pitchers. Our little 1A school went to the state twice and got put out by private schools. I PROMISE nobody can or will recruit to where we are. You’re either born here or MAY move here for a job. Wed get to the playoffs and a private school would have 1-2 boys that can throw 80-90 and we’re toast. We don’t see that around here. We got put out in the basketball state championship by another private school with Div 1 recruits from Atlanta and Bham. No way that’s fair. Every boy on our team lives here. I get Thompson, Auburn, etc are recruiting but small schools aren’t. Something needs to be done. Why can’t they have their own “private” association? Pretty sure Mississippi already does MAIS. So make your school better so people want to go there. I know guys that coach in MS. It is just like Bama. Private schools can play in the private league or the MHSAA which has both.
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Trying to say there's no deference in private and public school recruiting is just plain stupid. The public schools just need individuals to live in specific areas. Private schools are giving scholarships that include tuition and fees being waved, there's no comparison. When my son played in the west mobile park league they were offered during middle school years lol. City run school systems are doing the same thing I live close to a "public" school that was in the playoffs. They've recruited my son and several others from nearby county, private and city schools. They give a "scholarship" to athletes. Regular students can attend and pay $X amount. This school will require the athlete to be held back if he is of a certain age. They have been doing this for several years and have been very successful. I agree with Atoler. I think a lot of it has to do with the parents being involved. Our private school has had success against larger schools and I promise you it was not because we had more talent. That is a public school that has put an emphasis on athletics and growing its school system. I’m betting it is a mid sized city school and not a county school.
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Are yall talking Aisa or Ahsaa? I'm referring to AHSAA...I don't know of any AISA schools down this way now.
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Trying to say there's no deference in private and public school recruiting is just plain stupid. The public schools just need individuals to live in specific areas. Private schools are giving scholarships that include tuition and fees being waved, there's no comparison. When my son played in the west mobile park league they were offered during middle school years lol. City run school systems are doing the same thing Every kid on the public school team is on scholarship. Zero public school players pay to go to school there. Unless it’s a city school and the kid lives out of the school zone. Tell me again why a private school letting a kid go to school for free is an advantage over a public school letting a kid go there for free? The private school letting one go for free isn't the same. Ill assure you theyre only letting one that makes them more competitive. Bench warmer isn't getting a free ride.
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Trying to say there's no deference in private and public school recruiting is just plain stupid. The public schools just need individuals to live in specific areas. Private schools are giving scholarships that include tuition and fees being waved, there's no comparison. When my son played in the west mobile park league they were offered during middle school years lol. City run school systems are doing the same thing Every kid on the public school team is on scholarship. Zero public school players pay to go to school there. Unless it’s a city school and the kid lives out of the school zone. Tell me again why a private school letting a kid go to school for free is an advantage over a public school letting a kid go there for free? The private school letting one go for free isn't the same. Ill assure you theyre only letting one that makes them more competitive. Bench warmer isn't getting a free ride. Exactly my point. So you have a mediocre player interested in coming to the private school that will definitely help the program. He’s not great, but will play some and help elevate practices. The family can’t afford to go there but don’t qualify for financial aid. Private schools don’t get that kid. A public school does. Public schools get the advantage there. Public school people think every player on the private school team is on scholarship. That’s so far from the truth. Take UMS Wright for example. They usually have 2-3 kids on the field that are on scholarship. The rest of them are just hard nosed mean rich kids that are well coached and well disciplined. They work hard and are super smart.
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They don't want the mediocre player. They only give the scholorship to the chosen ones. The mediocre kid was already at the public school.
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What about St Michael's? They seem to be getting good in a hurry.
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Pwyse. Thanks for stating the facts that some can’t accept.
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They don't want the mediocre player. They only give the scholorship to the chosen ones. The mediocre kid was already at the public school. You are wrong. They need the mediocre player. And they have to find 45 mediocre players that can pay tuition.
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