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Depredation permits are tightly controlled and have very specific limitations, rules and timelines. They are species specific and most require you to leave any deer killed where it lays and you are prevented from removing antlers. It is possible to for a farmer to have a deer depredation permit and not a hog permit. Not sure that you can charge a hunter to shoot deer or use bait under the permit but I could be wrong. In some cases, fields are inspected following a "management" event. Also, some hunters intentionally gut shoot the deer or hogs so they will run off of the field and expire somewhere else.
Either way, you are right that an aggressive number of deer taken under a permit can reduce the population in close proximity to the target farm. Do the same thing over several years and you really see a change. Where did you find the information that you had to leave the critters to rot? What I saw was - Deer harvested with a Alabama Depredation Permit can be processed. General requirements for processing Transfer of possession: Any transfer of a deer to a processor or taxidermist requires written documentation. Documentation must include: Full name of the person who harvested the animal Conservation ID (CID) of the person who harvested the animal Game Check Confirmation Number associated with that animal Date the animal was harvested
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You do realize these deer are shot at night sometimes at long distances. Finding them is not part of the game. I bet CNC ain't ever been called in July to track one
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Well according to Aldeer you should be able to use every square inch of your property any legal way you want, neighbors be damned. So there’s the answer. As long as it's legal, fugg any nosey neighbors who want to tell me what I can and can't do on MY property.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Depredation permits are tightly controlled and have very specific limitations, rules and timelines. They are species specific and most require you to leave any deer killed where it lays and you are prevented from removing antlers. It is possible to for a farmer to have a deer depredation permit and not a hog permit. Not sure that you can charge a hunter to shoot deer or use bait under the permit but I could be wrong. In some cases, fields are inspected following a "management" event. Also, some hunters intentionally gut shoot the deer or hogs so they will run off of the field and expire somewhere else.
Either way, you are right that an aggressive number of deer taken under a permit can reduce the population in close proximity to the target farm. Do the same thing over several years and you really see a change. Where did you find the information that you had to leave the critters to rot? What I saw was - Deer harvested with a Alabama Depredation Permit can be processed. General requirements for processing Transfer of possession: Any transfer of a deer to a processor or taxidermist requires written documentation. Documentation must include: Full name of the person who harvested the animal Conservation ID (CID) of the person who harvested the animal Game Check Confirmation Number associated with that animal Date the animal was harvested I've been on depredation permits and was told by "Green Jeans" to leave em laying and don't even pull them out of the field. Like Overland said , I know some who gut shoot them so they'll run out of the field.
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Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Miss’ippi (unless recently changed) bars depredation kills from recovery, and pretty sure it is strictly a “leave em where they lay” permit. If you’ve seen (or much much worse experienced) what an unseen deer carcass does to a combine innards, then you understand why the shooters/farmers gut shot them, more often than not.
experience is a freakin' awesome teacher....
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Miss’ippi (unless recently changed) bars depredation kills from recovery, and pretty sure it is strictly a “leave em where they lay” permit. If you’ve seen (or much much worse experienced) what an unseen deer carcass does to a combine innards, then you understand why the shooters/farmers gut shot them, more often than not. You are correct , Sir.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Miss’ippi (unless recently changed) bars depredation kills from recovery, and pretty sure it is strictly a “leave em where they lay” permit. If you’ve seen (or much much worse experienced) what an unseen deer carcass does to a combine innards, then you understand why the shooters/farmers gut shot them, more often than not. Maybe it has changed - Saw this on their web site. The Mississippi depredation program does not prevent you from recovering deer, but it does allow for the harvesting of deer under specific circumstances to protect crops. Landowners and lessees can request a special permit to hunt deer that are actively destroying crops on their land. This permit allows for harvesting during the season or at other times to control crop damage. Permit holders can hunt deer: A landowner or agricultural lessee can apply for a special permit from the Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries, and Parks (MDWFP) to harvest deer causing crop damage. Permits are for crop protection: The purpose of the depredation permit is to provide a way to control deer that are actively harming agricultural crops. It does not prevent recovery: Recovering a deer that has been legally harvested, either with a standard hunting license or through a depredation permit, is still permitted.
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If it’s not ur property a no laws broken there nothing anyone can do bout it .
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If it’s not ur property a no laws broken there nothing anyone can do bout it . Sure there is. Laws change all the time. This is how people discuss problems with current laws and speak to their legislators and DCNR about it.
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If it’s not ur property a no laws broken there nothing anyone can do bout it . Sure there is. Laws change all the time. This is how people discuss problems with current laws and speak to their legislators and DCNR about it. If you're fighting the farming lobby in Alabama , on any issue . that's a mighty tall , up hill battle. And if it's deer population control , game and fish is pro doe killing , so there's another hill.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Depredation permits are necessary in some cases and have a role in balancing the interests of farmers, hunters, and wildlife managers. But if the above story is true, I definitely do not support the use of bait and/or paid hunts in conjunction with a depredation permit.
If a permit allowing out of season and bag limit exceptions is truly needed then the goal should be to keep deer out of your fields, not draw them in with additional bait. If you need bait to kill them, you don't need the permit in the first place. You should only be killing nuisance deer actively damaging your crop, not drawing in deer from a mile away to shoot them over a corn pile. The state already allows 2 does a day for almost 3 months of rifle season per person, allowing a single farmer 100+ does a year without a permit and multiples more for additional hunters on the property. It should be a pretty rare circumstance to need more than that.
And on top of that, depredation permits shouldn't be used for recreational hunting, especially not paid hunts where the farmer or another individual is profiting from being granted a permit not available to the general public. That's wanting cake and eating it too. There is a reason, if I am not mistaken, that depredation permits do not allow you to process or taxidermy deer taken using one. If you want to recreationally hunt or charge others to do so on your land, use the same rules as the rest of us. Deer harvested with a Alabama Depredation Permit can be processed. General requirements for processing Transfer of possession: Any transfer of a deer to a processor or taxidermist requires written documentation. Documentation must include: Full name of the person who harvested the animal Conservation ID (CID) of the person who harvested the animal Game Check Confirmation Number associated with that animal Date the animal was harvested That’s just the general rules for dropping a deer off at a processor hunted under normal methods, not the more restrictive rules issued under a depredation permit.
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