Thanks Swampmonkey. Theres one on FB marketplace right now i would buy except for the FEL and equipment with it. Its a 4630, i think. All i need is the plain ole tractor. Both my orchard bushhogs require 50hp pto, thats why i have to stay above that. Alot of tractors with that power or more are so tall i couldnt use them.in the orchard. The Ford tractors were generally a little lower and they made a low profile version, the SU model.