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Booner
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Has anyone seen a noticeable difference between Match grade and Basic die sets
In over 20 years of reloading I’ve never seen a noticeable improvement in using Match grade
I’ve always kept my dies cleaned and ready for use
Over the years I’ve purchased both types of dies but will never buy MG again
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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Are the tolerances any tighter on MG dies or is it just the micrometer adjustment of the seating die? I've had FL and Neck dies for my 22-250 for 15 years and have never gotten around to running a test on any accuracy difference there.
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2002
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The only thing remotely close to match grade dies that I have is a Frankford Arsenal Universal Micrometer Seating Die and I really like it. I don't pinch paper at 600 nor do I ring steel at 1000 so my setup works for me.
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10 point
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I only use custom honed or bushing dies and I believe all those are considered match grade or custom. Not a fan of undersizing the neck and then pulling an expander ball back through it that can also negatively influence shoulder bump consistency. Plus I want to work the necks as little as possible.
If you short much, the cost difference between dies is irrelevant.
I don’t believe you’ll see a difference on paper at 100 yards. But the SDs should be better with a better die and your brass will most definitely have a longer service life the less you work it. So if you shoot enough, a “good” die actually saves you money.
You're only as good as your worst shot-
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I use Harrels, Whidden, SAC and RCBS sizing dies and Wilson inline seating dies for my match rifles. Runout will be minimal if you set them up right and skim your necks. Unless you are shooting long range or short range bench rest it really does not matter you will not be able to shoot the difference.
Last edited by 1bamashooter; 11/11/25 09:50 PM.
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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4 point
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I mostly use basic Lee dies for my loads for high power rifle and for pistol competition. I’ve never felt like they have ever held me back.
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I've always just used standard RCBS dies and been pleased with the results.
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I’ve always used Redding match grade so I have no idea. I’m guessing it depends
For everyday average joe probably not. Long range precision it probably does.
I got Lee Carbide for 9mm and 223 on my Dillon
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I have several of the Redding Type S bushing dies. I dont think they result in more concentric necks but the ability to adjust neck tension can sometimes make a difference in accuracy. I've been using Forster dies for years and still do and they're very good.
For most of my rifles I'm sizing without an expander ball and using an expander mandrel die in a separate step for more consistent neck tension.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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