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The description I’ve read is a vintage Mauser. I wonder if it was sporterized and scoped. I know all of us snipers here on Aldeer can make a similar shot with iron sights, but a non-scope rifle, under intense pressure, over 100 yards, presumably without the ability to carefully tweak point of impact to ammo choice … neck shot?? I don’t know. I wonder if the rifle found was a planted diversion Wasn't intended to be a neck shot. Charlie was wearing a ballistic plate vest and the bullet ricochet off the plate into his neck. Even with iron sight, an average shooter can make a center mass shot at 125 yards with a little practice. If you can stand to watch the slow-mo close up, you can see the whole plate carrier absorb the initial impact under his shirt. There appears to be a hole at the top of his shirt where the top of the plate would be. Common tactic to take out someone wearing plates. Plates tend to send shrapnel when hit. When from an elevated position, they can predictably bounce up into the head pretty much intact. It looks like that is what happened here. Same thing happens when you try shoot a charging bear in the head.
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The description I’ve read is a vintage Mauser. I wonder if it was sporterized and scoped. I know all of us snipers here on Aldeer can make a similar shot with iron sights, but a non-scope rifle, under intense pressure, over 100 yards, presumably without the ability to carefully tweak point of impact to ammo choice … neck shot?? I don’t know. I wonder if the rifle found was a planted diversion Wasn't intended to be a neck shot. Charlie was wearing a ballistic plate vest and the bullet ricochet off the plate into his neck. Even with iron sight, an average shooter can make a center mass shot at 125 yards with a little practice. If you can stand to watch the slow-mo close up, you can see the whole plate carrier absorb the initial impact under his shirt. There appears to be a hole at the top of his shirt where the top of the plate would be. Common tactic to take out someone wearing plates. Plates tend to send shrapnel when hit. When from an elevated position, they can predictably bounce up into the head pretty much intact. It looks like that is what happened here. Same thing happens when you try shoot a charging bear in the head. I don’t think this guy had those skills
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I don’t believe he had a vest. My guess he aimed Carter mass and bullet hit high due to elevated position.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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If you watch the video in slow motion, his entire shirt jumps up with a vest imprinting and a hole appearing right below the collar.
You can also see the cloth get pulled all the way up to his cheek, like someone was pinching it and pulling up. Over his right breast, you can see the top of a plate imprinting real clear. His initial grimace is getting slammed in the plates. A shot to neck wouldn't make your shirt fly up and make a face like you just got hit in the chest with bat.
I could be wrong, but it seems clear to me if you find a slow enough video. Hard to watch.
Last edited by ShootemupTex; 09/11/25 06:51 PM.
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That sure didn’t sound like a 30-06.
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Watched once. I'm done. DAYUM IT MAN
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
- - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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I don’t believe he had a vest. My guess he aimed Carter mass and bullet hit high due to elevated position. I watched a video. The plate is very clear on bullet impact.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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I’m wondering if the 30-06 wasn’t planted before the shooting. Just another decoy to throw off the LEO
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I don’t believe he had a vest. My guess he aimed Carter mass and bullet hit high due to elevated position. I watched a video. The plate is very clear on bullet impact. Yep, it certainly appears that way. https://x.com/KirkLubimov/status/1965906834096795849
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They just showed video at presser of him walking/limping to the scene; apparently gun was down his pants leg
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I saw a still pic of him just before the shot. You can clearly see his pecs and nips hugged under the shirt. I do not believe he had a vest on.
You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Ya'll may be missing a crucial point.
The pics released today of the "person of Interest" appear to be in a stairwell, maybe going up to the roof? What you do not see is a rifle being carried in hand or on sling over shoulder. Could mean rifle was already planted there for him on the roof, which further implies either he set it up earlier or there are additional persons of interest that are involved. Since they believe he ran across the roof upon exiting and stashed a rifle in the woods, he left with it??? Seems like more to the story than is being told. As usual... I personally do not believe he will ever be found, gone or dead, either way...
If you can't laugh at your mistakes, go home.
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Ya'll may be missing a crucial point.
The pics released today of the "person of Interest" appear to be in a stairwell, maybe going up to the roof? What you do not see is a rifle being carried in hand or on sling over shoulder. Could mean rifle was already planted there for him on the roof, which further implies either he set it up earlier or there are additional persons of interest that are involved. Since they believe he ran across the roof upon exiting and stashed a rifle in the woods, he left with it??? Seems like more to the story than is being told. As usual... I personally do not believe he will ever be found, gone or dead, either way... did you see the videos in the presser tonight?
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Last edited by cartervj; 09/11/25 10:03 PM.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Glad He Doesn’t Have One
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I don’t have Facebook. What does that jet have to do with anything?
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I don’t have Facebook. What does that jet have to do with anything? It proves exactly, nothing.
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Don’t know. Jonny lock made mention of it.
It took off 20 minutes or so after Charlie was shot and burned off its transponder they’re saying.
I just thought folks might wanna go down that rabbit hole too
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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The AC had something to do with it
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Did y'all notice the two guys to Charlie's right? The video below is about those two. Is the one in the black shirt the one who supposedly owns the plane that took off and went off radar for a bit? https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/196...G-35Wm67WSdRQ_aem_7O6-Wqtwf3YPbEPzW3xcBA
If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you.---Winnie the Pooh
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