Originally Posted by howl
Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by howl
You're going backwards. The First Amendment protects a natural right which exists whether anyone else likes it or not. Saying an employer should be able to fire you is like saying the king should be able to evict you. You are separated from your living and made outlaw because you exercised a natural right.
There are a couple of fallacies with your comment....

first, nobody has made these people an "outlaw" thanks to......wait for it.....the First Amendment. Their comments, no matter how vile and evil, are not illegal.

second, nobody is evicting these people from their homes over their comments...they're being fired from their [presumably private sector] jobs for being idiots. The First Amendment doesn't guarantee your right to work at a job even if the boss thinks you're an idiot who is negatively impacting their bottom line by your stupidity.

I gave the king making outlaw as an example to illustrate the point. The which appears to have missed you. Obviously, we have no kings here.

Have you ever considered how we are again coming to being tied to a specific circumstance for our living? We need people to be able to go to college and graduate school, then make a living in a specialty necessary for all our advancement. Fear of losing everything because of personal opinions will prevent people from pursuing avenues we need to be lead down..It takes extraordinary people to do extraordinary things.

Sacrificing natural rights for oppression is not a solution to offensive opinions. Rather than suppressing natural rights, we should consider that we would have less division and strife in a more homogeneous, monocultural society.
It's baffling that the same person espousing the importance of the First Amendment also apparently thinks a business owner shouldn't be allowed to decide who he employs or doesn't employ, and a business owner firing someone for saying/doing something that could be detrimental to his business is not "oppression". It's less baffling, though, when one considers that said person clearly has no idea what the First Amendment actually protects and doesn't protect.

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