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All that for naught. If the religious leadership is allowed to live, they'll rebuild. You gotta take that infrastructure out too. And it should have been in the first wave.
Israel needs to take them back to the 1960's in capabilities.
I'm interested in air defense aspect of this. Iran has, to my understanding, some of the most advanced Russian air defense systems in the world. And a LOT of them too. They've been building that all up since we took out their Navy a while back.
If Israel planes just few unimpeded, I want to know how that went down. Did Massad disable them? Were they enabled and ineffective? Jammed? Eliminated in first wave? To me, that's the most interesting aspect.
Because if they were ineffective for any reason, Russia is done for as a military arms dealer to the world. It was already looking bad on them. But now, well.. Why have their shit at all if an enemy can just ignore it and beat your ass.
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Putin has come out and said they stand with their allied Iran. The Houthies are vowing revenge on the U.S.. Iran is supposed to have already the components from China to develop 800 new missiles. A lot happening
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Israel isnt slowing down. They are hitting Iran in full daylight. https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1933491852193255605
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I hope they take out their oil port. This would definitely hurt Russia and China as well.
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Right now the targets, and the people being targeted are all military. Israel wants to take out Iran's ability to shoot back first. Regime change will be next. Jewish banksters have vested interests in keeping that oil infrastructure going, so Israel will try and take out the regime and keep the money making operation.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
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Russia wont do anything but talk. They are busy in the Ukraine and wont risk a war with the US. Iran has been a problem ever since the Shah of Iran was ousted. I hope their people, especially the younger generation see this as a chance for regime change. That would cost a lot of young lives though.
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Right now the targets, and the people being targeted are all military. Israel wants to take out Iran's ability to shoot back first. Regime change will be next. Jewish banksters have vested interests in keeping that oil infrastructure going, so Israel will try and take out the regime and keep the money making operation. I’d bet that is the plan and hopeful it’ll come to fruition
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Israel has said that if the continuing air strikes aren’t effective enough they will go after Iran refineries effectively crippling their economy
Iran is currently trying to maneuver mobile launchers to strike Israel but they are being destroyed as quickly as they’re deployed
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From all of the video I have seen so far, I have yet to see any anti-aircraft fire from Iran.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
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All that for naught. If the religious leadership is allowed to live, they'll rebuild. You gotta take that infrastructure out too. And it should have been in the first wave.
Israel needs to take them back to the 1960's in capabilities.
I'm interested in air defense aspect of this. Iran has, to my understanding, some of the most advanced Russian air defense systems in the world. And a LOT of them too. They've been building that all up since we took out their Navy a while back.
If Israel planes just few unimpeded, I want to know how that went down. Did Massad disable them? Were they enabled and ineffective? Jammed? Eliminated in first wave? To me, that's the most interesting aspect.
Because if they were ineffective for any reason, Russia is done for as a military arms dealer to the world. It was already looking bad on them. But now, well.. Why have their shit at all if an enemy can just ignore it and beat your ass. russia doesnt really have the most advanced AD systems in the world. The S300 has been taken out with stuff we built in the 80's.Russians are are great salemen but their tech has always been garbage and always overhyped.
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All that for naught. If the religious leadership is allowed to live, they'll rebuild. You gotta take that infrastructure out too. And it should have been in the first wave.
Israel needs to take them back to the 1960's in capabilities.
I'm interested in air defense aspect of this. Iran has, to my understanding, some of the most advanced Russian air defense systems in the world. And a LOT of them too. They've been building that all up since we took out their Navy a while back.
If Israel planes just few unimpeded, I want to know how that went down. Did Massad disable them? Were they enabled and ineffective? Jammed? Eliminated in first wave? To me, that's the most interesting aspect.
Because if they were ineffective for any reason, Russia is done for as a military arms dealer to the world. It was already looking bad on them. But now, well.. Why have their shit at all if an enemy can just ignore it and beat your ass. russia doesnt really have the most advanced AD systems in the world. The S300 has been taken out with stuff we built in the 80's.Russians are are great salemen but their tech has always been garbage and always overhyped. Agreed; General Keane on Fox stated Iran is no match for Israel and U.S. defense technology and forces. Thays why they need weapons of mass destruction and terror to hurt the infidels. Israel had inside help to set up a drone base inside Iran and fly 200 jets a 1000 miles unimpeded.
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I’m hoping the airstrikes are effective and they don’t touch the oil refineries. First refinery that goes up is going to increase our price at the pump more than what they already are.
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I’m hoping the airstrikes are effective and they don’t touch the oil refineries. First refinery that goes up is going to increase our price at the pump more than what they already are. isn't Iranian oil already sanctioned? You're not wrong either. Just saying
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I’m hoping the airstrikes are effective and they don’t touch the oil refineries. First refinery that goes up is going to increase our price at the pump more than what they already are. isn't Iranian oil already sanctioned? You're not wrong either. Just saying It is sanctioned The main buyer currently is China and that’s being cut off too
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Iran has been a problem ever since the Shah of Iran was ousted. I hope their people, especially the younger generation see this as a chance for regime change. That would cost a lot of young lives though. I've been waiting since 1979 to see iran get its butt kicked. The problem with the younger generation rising up is that they are unarmed. Maybe we need to be supplying them with appropriate means to assert themselves against allah's little turds running their govt.
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It was a bad day to be in the Iranian chain of command
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I’m hoping the airstrikes are effective and they don’t touch the oil refineries. First refinery that goes up is going to increase our price at the pump more than what they already are. isn't Iranian oil already sanctioned? You're not wrong either. Just saying It is sanctioned The main buyer currently is China and that’s being cut off too True, that kind of thing would directly affect China. I was speaking in big picture terms. If a sizeable refinery goes up anywhere in the world the global market typically kneels jerks to that news. I figure it might be a larger response since this would likely mean an escalation of the conflict over there.
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