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Not in DC. State director of RD is in montgomery


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Serious question, where is there a forest that has been destroyed by acid rain?


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Originally Posted by Okatuppa
Serious question, where is there a forest that has been destroyed by acid rain?

Most have recovered now, but there was a time when quite a few places in the Smokies were threatened.


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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by Okatuppa
Serious question, where is there a forest that has been destroyed by acid rain?

Most have recovered now, but there was a time when quite a few places in the Smokies were threatened.

Talladega NF and the Chattahoochee-Oconee NF's in Georgia were hit really hard in the 50's-70's. They mostly have recovered now but several pocket areas like hollers where smog accumulated got killed flat. Then rain erosion set in and carved big gullies down the west side of the hills.
I did a study that included a section on that kind of erosion in the hills.


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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by Okatuppa
Serious question, where is there a forest that has been destroyed by acid rain?

Most have recovered now, but there was a time when quite a few places in the Smokies were threatened.

I thought that acid rain/too much auto exhaust killing trees in GSMNP was debunked . I remember a report came out that foresters determined the timber had reached full maturity and was dying naturally .



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Just how is she supposed to help President Trump and the country ?

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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Irishguy
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Serious question, where is there a forest that has been destroyed by acid rain?

Most have recovered now, but there was a time when quite a few places in the Smokies were threatened.

I thought that acid rain/too much auto exhaust killing trees in GSMNP was debunked . I remember a report came out that foresters determined the timber had reached full maturity and was dying naturally .


Well... My main point was...

I did my part I either designed or had a hand in almost every single air pollution control system, Flue Gas Desulfurization Systems, Electrostatic Precipitators, Fabric Filters, Selective Catalytic Reducers, Jet Bubble Reactors, etc...

The power company didn't build any of those to make money, we built them - and engineered them in house - because of governmental regulations handed down to us, and because we all sincerely thought we were doing the right thing. I know this because we lived it and we were all passionate about it. Southern Company's plants are among the cleanest in the world, and I'm proud of that.

If we didn't have electricity we would literally be back in the 1800's.

Without A/C...

In the south...

Yet what's funny is that people pay more for their cell phones and internet than they do power, but the thing they gripe about is their power bill.


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No sir! If she wasn't approving those rate increases, then they would have had to throttle back wasting all that money.

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Originally Posted by GmeHunter
No sir! If she wasn't approving those rate increases, then they would have had to throttle back wasting all that money.

You have it backwards.

The government regulates utilities, and forces them reduce pollution to certain levels, reducing pollution costs billions of dollars in design and construction, the only way for a power utility to recoup the costs of pollution control projects is to raise the rates.

If you were a building contractor, building houses for people, and all the sudden the government stepped in and said, "From now on you will need to do an archeological dig on any sight you build a home on before you build, and it will cost you $50,000." Would you just eat that cost, or would you pass it on to the customer?


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Originally Posted by GmeHunter
No sir! If she wasn't approving those rate increases, then they would have had to throttle back wasting all that money.

I refuse to feed the ignorance.


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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by Okatuppa
Serious question, where is there a forest that has been destroyed by acid rain?

Most have recovered now, but there was a time when quite a few places in the Smokies were threatened.

I thought that acid rain/too much auto exhaust killing trees in GSMNP was debunked . I remember a report came out that foresters determined the timber had reached full maturity and was dying naturally .


Well... My main point was...

I did my part I either designed or had a hand in almost every single air pollution control system, Flue Gas Desulfurization Systems, Electrostatic Precipitators, Fabric Filters, Selective Catalytic Reducers, Jet Bubble Reactors, etc...

The power company didn't build any of those to make money, we built them - and engineered them in house - because of governmental regulations handed down to us, and because we all sincerely thought we were doing the right thing. I know this because we lived it and we were all passionate about it. Southern Company's plants are among the cleanest in the world, and I'm proud of that.

If we didn't have electricity we would literally be back in the 1800's.

Without A/C...

In the south...

Yet what's funny is that people pay more for their cell phones and internet than they do power, but the thing they gripe about is their power bill.


Exactly

Man has done a lot of damaging things and hopefully corrected most of it.

Leftist promote climate change but in a way that benefits their narratives and pocketbooks.

Nothing is simple rather much more complicated

I read the fish advisories and look at a watershed creek system that feeds into the river. Literally is the north line of the farm. Not much industry upstream just other farms. The advisory gets more and more warned. No fish there and downstream for a few miles to be consumed because of mercury.

Irony, those fish are end up in the river where they are caught and consumed en masse.


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Originally Posted by cartervj
Exactly

Man has done a lot of damaging things and hopefully corrected most of it.

Leftist promote climate change but in a way that benefits their narratives and pocketbooks.

Nothing is simple rather much more complicated

I read the fish advisories and look at a watershed creek system that feeds into the river. Literally is the north line of the farm. Not much industry upstream just other farms. The advisory gets more and more warned. No fish there and downstream for a few miles to be consumed because of mercury.

Irony, those fish are end up in the river where they are caught and consumed en masse.

Aren't most of the fish advisories due to dioxin in the rivers and lakes and didn't that pollution come from the pulp and paper industry?


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Most of the pollution in the waterways comes from agriculture and town/city run-off. Old school paper mills and other factory type operations didnt help, but the long term accumulated water pollution is from bad agricultural practices and towns/cities.
Every town in Alabama is on some kind of creek or directly on a river. Over time, our daily living makes its way into the watershed. Decades of herbicides, pesticides, and high chemical fertilizers, also make their way into the watersheds.


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