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heb 9:12 neither by the blood of goats and calves but by HIS own blood He entered in once into the holy place having obtained eternal redemption for us.
v14 how much more shall the BLOOD OF CHRIST who thru the eternal Spirit offered Himself Without spot to God purge your conscience from DEAD WORKS to serve the living God.
most every church has been corrupted from the herasy of lordship salvation.
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Doing the best I can.
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You didn't answer my question. Is there obedience involved?
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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rom 4;5 but ti him that worked not but BELIEVETH on HIM that justified the ungodly his FAITH is counted for righteousness.
v6 even david also describe th the blessedness of the man unto whom God imputed righteousness WITHOUT WORKS.
v7 saying blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven and whose sins are covered
v8 blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not imputed sin. So are you saying there is no obedience to commands required? for SALVATION...no works are required WE TRUST IN HIS FINNISHED WORK for SERVICE.....ABSOLUTLY
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we serve Him out of gratitude.
rom 12:1 i beseech you therefore brethren by the mercies of God that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice holy acceptable unto God which is your reasonable SERVICE.
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Doing the best I can.
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Interesting. So you're saying obedience to commands constitutes works?
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Romans 6 1-4 addresses continuing in a known sin after being forgiven. Yes we all will continue to make mistakes and sin but those sins are continually forgiven if your walking in the light. If you are living in willful sin and refuse to repent and turn from it that’s a different situation.Its hard I have many friends that got married early in life and got divorced because they couldn’t get along and later remarried and have a wonderful life with children etc. But it doesn’t change the fact they’re living in adultry according to the word of God.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Well you are right about the sin but there is forgiveness . David committed adultery, murder, and lied. Somehow God forgave him he used Nathan to confront him and he past judgement on himself. The child died but he kept Bethsheba why was he allowed to keep her?
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I have enjoyed our discussion but I cant hold my eyes open much longer
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Doing the best I can.
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Yep. Work comes early in the morning.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Interesting. So you're saying obedience to commands constitutes works? yes obedience is works. turning from sin is works. Jonah 3 10 and God saw their WORKS that they turned from their evil way and God repented of the evil that He had said that He would do unto them and He did it not. the Bible says turning from sin is a work. you not sinning is again not what justifies you you are declared righteous by faith in Jesus christ the pharisees were trusting in their works and rejected the messiah lordshippers are the modern day pharisees
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Interesting. So you're saying obedience to commands constitutes works? "Faith without works is dead"
Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Interesting. So you're saying obedience to commands constitutes works? "Faith without works is dead" That is to say if a person is really saved, the works will follow salvation, not out of obligation necessarily, more out of obedience to a God one loves so much, he just dont want to let him down.
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[quote=Driveby]Interesting. So you're saying obedience to commands constitutes works? "Faith without works is dead"[/quote I knew someone would bring up james 2. lordshippers always do but what is the context of james 2. it's dealing with SERVICE NOT SALVATION. if u see someone in need you do good works and help them. Abraham was justified in the eyes of God by faith Abraham was justified by the eyes of men when he offered isaac. matt 5 :16 let your light so shine before MEN that they may see your good WORKS and glorify your Father which is in heaven. this is what james 2 is talking about justification before men. AGAIN don't confuse scripture dealing with salvation with SCRIPTURE dealing with SERVICE they are 2 different things.
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I married a girl that had been divorced - i felt like Lord put me with her. Could explain but may take a paragraph or 2
Iron sharpens iron but too many times i hav also been a judge when i should not have been one. Lov conquers all
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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I married a girl that had been divorced - i felt like Lord put me with her. Could explain but may take a paragraph or 2
Iron sharpens iron but too many times i hav also been a judge when i should not have been one. Lov conquers all and you are both forgiven if you put your faith in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus christ you ARE SAVED 1 cor 1:18 of course the corrupt bibles say BEING SAVED because the romanist wescott and hort were works trusters
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Good morning where does the word repentance fit into this equation
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Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
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Good morning where does the word repentance fit into this equation You wont get saved without it
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When y’all get this all sorted out, can y’all get us all on the same page about which translation and denomination are the “real” ones?
(Thanks, I’ll hang up and listen)
Isaiah 5:20
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What about living together? Sex before marriage?????? (test drive before you fully commit) all ages involved lots of guilty folks
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What about living together? Sex before marriage?????? (test drive before you fully commit) all ages involved lots of guilty folks Ever heard the term , "living in sin ?"
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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