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https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1896007823143928170

BREAKING: President Trump just signed an Executive Order terminating all regulations & processes that delay the production of timber, lumber, paper, bioenergy, and other wood products.

It's time to cut trees and use them to make houses, & other things affordable again.

"The United States has an abundance of timber resources that are more than adequate to meet our domestic timber production needs, but heavy-handed Federal policies have prevented full utilization of these resources and made us reliant on foreign producers."


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Canadian lumber is a better product than southern pine lumber. I hate it but it’s a fact

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Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Canadian lumber is a better product than southern pine lumber. I hate it but it’s a fact


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Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Canadian lumber is a better product than southern pine lumber. I hate it but it’s a fact

Supposedly a big timber guy close to us bought a huge tract of land up in north Canada. Supposed to make buckets full of money off the timber. Come to find out, the government up there wouldn’t let them cut it. I’m sure he came out smelling like a rose on the deal but dang.


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Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Canadian lumber is a better product than southern pine lumber. I hate it but it’s a fact


Another reason to be glad we have high grade hardwoods up in the top right corner.



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Imagine affordable plywood again. Just imagine.


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And quality , pressure treated lumber that will last.



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So what regulations were stopped?


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Originally Posted by trailertrash
So what regulations were stopped?


Just a guess on my part , but I'd say a couple would be opening up Federal lands to logging and relaxing regs on chemicals and EPA in manufacturing of timber products.



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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
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So what regulations were stopped?


Just a guess on my part , but I'd say a couple would be opening up Federal lands to logging and relaxing regs on chemicals and EPA in manufacturing of timber products.


I sure hope the federal lands isn't the case. It worries me that we will start seeing national forests logged. If you want to own a pine plantation, that's fine. Public land shouldn't be touched. I'm a Trump supporter, but some of the environmental stuff is worrisome.

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Originally Posted by klay
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
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So what regulations were stopped?


Just a guess on my part , but I'd say a couple would be opening up Federal lands to logging and relaxing regs on chemicals and EPA in manufacturing of timber products.


I sure hope the federal lands isn't the case. It worries me that we will start seeing national forests logged. If you want to own a pine plantation, that's fine. Public land shouldn't be touched. I'm a Trump supporter, but some of the environmental stuff is worrisome.

National forest are in terrible need of proper timber management, including some harvest. Inactive or passive management is not management at all, and does not help wildlife or the public. As with anything, it should be closely monitored and regulated, but not logging public lands in the south is a huge mistake IMO.

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Originally Posted by Mbrock
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
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So what regulations were stopped?


Just a guess on my part , but I'd say a couple would be opening up Federal lands to logging and relaxing regs on chemicals and EPA in manufacturing of timber products.


I sure hope the federal lands isn't the case. It worries me that we will start seeing national forests logged. If you want to own a pine plantation, that's fine. Public land shouldn't be touched. I'm a Trump supporter, but some of the environmental stuff is worrisome.

National forest are in terrible need of proper timber management, including some harvest. Inactive or passive management is not management at all, and does not help wildlife or the public. As with anything, it should be closely monitored and regulated, but not logging public lands in the south is a huge mistake IMO.


I get that. I just don't think it would be properly regulated. Maybe I'm wrong. I know that's your wheelhouseand I have no doubt you'd do what's right. The way they are cutting people and changing things, I could see it going bad, fast.

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Matt, you think we will stop surveying the same National Forest tract over and over again?


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Originally Posted by Skinny
Matt, you think we will stop surveying the same National Forest tract over and over again?

No 😂

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I HOPE!!…they start workin on all natfo…its bad in a buncha places…big beautiful long leaf plantation they will baby that crap and do everything they can to make it beautiful…loblolly…theyll let that crap grow til it starts killin itself


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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by klay
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by trailertrash
So what regulations were stopped?


Just a guess on my part , but I'd say a couple would be opening up Federal lands to logging and relaxing regs on chemicals and EPA in manufacturing of timber products.


I sure hope the federal lands isn't the case. It worries me that we will start seeing national forests logged. If you want to own a pine plantation, that's fine. Public land shouldn't be touched. I'm a Trump supporter, but some of the environmental stuff is worrisome.

National forest are in terrible need of proper timber management, including some harvest. Inactive or passive management is not management at all, and does not help wildlife or the public. As with anything, it should be closely monitored and regulated, but not logging public lands in the south is a huge mistake IMO.


That's right . When in NM Elk hunting in the Santa Fe National forest several years ago , there were massive Ponderosa Pines , with thousands of board feet in each one, old ,dying and falling into each other , a tangled mess. Then you'd hit a very small area that had been clear cut and the stumps were very small. I asked the guide, Bob , what was up with that , he said the Spotted Owl caused that timber management . That's about the time they said there were way more Spotted Owls than previous thought. It was all a ruse to save the old growth trees. But trees have a lifespan so instead of being harvested in their prime they were allowed to die of natural causes.

Some wise timber / land management might help Cali's little fire problem too.



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Hopefully this will kick in and align with my retirement so I can afford to build my little 1000-1200 sqft barndo on the cheap and with quality vs todays cost.



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I don’t think the mills in the south have had production handcuffs from environmental factors in recent years - just filling the housing markets as needed with ebbs and flows.

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