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The public needed to see his lack of appreciation demeanor

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Only downside is Putin gets to see the division between Trump and Z and will probably re-double his war efforts now.


Putin is having a shot of nice Russian vodka about now with a chit eatin' grin.



Putin has lost allegedly over 500,000 soldiers in this war because of Biden and our $350 billion. Don't kid yourself...lots of former US military mercs have been fighting the Russians, paid for by the U.S. Meanwhile, Europe lent Ukraine $100 billion.

They all want the U.S. to keep piling money in to weaken Russia, to teach him a lesson right. Who is getting fvcked in this deal? The taxpayer who is stuck funding this POS war that has no implications for the U.S.

People like you talking about how Russia is cheering this are just plain fools in my book. Russia invaded and expected to take over Ukraine easily. Nobody in their right mind would give some corrupt country like Ukraine, the money laundering capital of the world, $350 billion except for Joe Biden.

Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, fvck him. The U.S. should pull out of NATO too. We provide protection for all of Europe on our dime, so we can watch a bunch of fairy men like Macron, the British PM and German leadership lecture us. They are going to be out of power soon anyways, as they become all muslim countries.

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What Driveby said 💯. Some Folks Don’t have any Shame.

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He's going to bend the knee. He just needs to figure out which direction. He doesn't have enough resources to do otherwise.


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I'm glad Trump and Vance told him off, I'm not sure in front of the media was the place, not like that. Unless, Trump is putting it to the Ukrainian people and letting them see their leader the way the world has seen ours the last four years.

He didn't give the boy much space did he, Trump vs. Z?

Let Europe pour more money into them. They are the ones putting it on Trump, pony up more EU.


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zelensky was cool, then as soon as he got in front of the camera's he turned on trump, and in the eyes of the world it worked. but vance saw what was up and called him out. I don't understand why more folks don't see what we see, iam the only person in my vast family that is proud of trump on this.

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Americans should be for America. And America has to take care of America before we can help others. We are 36trillion in debt. We cant afford our own bills. We need to resolve our debt before we spend one more dime helping anyone. Its time we tighten our belts. We can not continue on the path were on.

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Quit giving the damn guy $$$ and let all his european buddies support him. Screw that sniveling little ahole.

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Yep. Z playing with his nose

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Quit giving the damn guy $$$ and let all his european buddies support him. Screw that sniveling little ahole.

I don't mind giving money to Ukraine to help defeat Putin as I believe it is imperative that he be stopped now because if he succeeds he will move on and won't stop until he rebuilds the old Soviet Empire. I truly don't think the thought of WWIII is a deterrent to him. The only thing that Putin fears is losing and being embarrassed. Now, having said that, I insist on full accounting for every penny and bullet we send over there. I also agree wholeheartedly that since Europe has more to lose than we do, they should bear the brunt of financing the Z and Putin war.


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Quit giving the damn guy $$$ and let all his european buddies support him. Screw that sniveling little ahole.

I don't mind giving money to Ukraine to help defeat Putin as I believe it is imperative that he be stopped now because if he succeeds he will move on and won't stop until he rebuilds the old Soviet Empire. I truly don't think the thought of WWIII is a deterrent to him. The only thing that Putin fears is losing and being embarrassed. Now, having said that, I insist on full accounting for every penny and bullet we send over there. I also agree wholeheartedly that since Europe has more to lose than we do, they should bear the brunt of financing the Z and Putin war.


You're in the minority. Most of us are tired of giving money to anyone. Much less a foreign war that we have no business being in. If Europe doesn't want a war, or if they do, then they need to get off their collective arses and handle it. I'm tired of the US being the world police.

With that said, one good thing did come out of the war. The US demonstrated on the world stage that we can dominate Russia, supposedly the second most powerful military in the world. In every single aspect of that war, our tactics and hardware beat theirs. Without exception. The ruin that caused Russia may never be repaired. So it's not like Russia came out smelling like roses. They didn't. They've been ruined. Everyone knows their military is shit. Their equipment is shit. Their tactics are shit. Other than a little bit of land, I don't see how anyone can say Russia won. Not by a long shot. Trump is telling Z the war stops or we bounce. He's told Russia they stop or we double down. Regardless, the war stops.


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Chess not checkers. After a verbal pimp slap from POTUS and VP Vance, Z immediately heads to London and GB gives them above 2B in loans. Just the way Trump wanted. Let Europe foot some of the bill instead of us.


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Putin doesn’t want WW3, Ukraine showed how vulnerable they are. They had to get North Koreans to help out.

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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by dave260rem!
Let me ask a really dumb question. How do we get out of this quagmire?





I watched that the other day. Well worth a listen.

Victor Davis Hanson is a smart man and a knowledgeable historian. Plus he has an innate ability to explain things in a way that even dumbass rednecks like us can understand it.

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I follow him and like hearing his perspective. He’s one of today’s brightest minds in my opinion. Jordan Peterson is another one I follow.

One of my older friends, a fellow pro photog and best in the shoals during his time, was a history teacher briefly. His perspective on todays politics are just repurposed history it seems


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Wouldn’t doubt that for a second.

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Get out of nato there’s no good purpose for it and do it now. Let them play stupid games and watch them drown. We have a strong leader now and those European nut jobs can get on board or go down a fools path. If they choose the fools path it will be fun to watch them dig their way out.

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Originally Posted by kkfish
Get out of nato there’s no good purpose for it and do it now. Let them play stupid games and watch them drown. We have a strong leader now and those European nut jobs can get on board or go down a fools path. If they choose the fools path it will be fun to watch them dig their way out.
this. That little twerp doesn’t care about his people and neither do the ones pushing for War. All about making money and keeping secrets hid. Also to not give a trump a win. TDS is a illness you know

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Originally Posted by woodduck
Originally Posted by kkfish
Get out of nato there’s no good purpose for it and do it now. Let them play stupid games and watch them drown. We have a strong leader now and those European nut jobs can get on board or go down a fools path. If they choose the fools path it will be fun to watch them dig their way out.
this. That little twerp doesn’t care about his people and neither do the ones pushing for War. All about making money and keeping secrets hid. Also to not give a trump a win. TDS is a illness you know

We should get out of nato, theyd probably immediately let ukraine in, then we could stand back and shake our heads as they all kill eachother. If ukraine joins nato, putin will likely start shooting big missles. I would rather us not get involved in that mess.

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