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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
Originally Posted by TexasHuntress
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Originally Posted by hawndog
We do very much need to cut the size of government. Firing working people is not the way to do it. People going to work every day are not the problem.


I don't think you understand the size of the problem. Most people have never looked at the numbers.

20 million gov employees
130 million private sector employees

Total individual income tax collected (including gov employees) = $2.2 Trillion + corporate tax = $2.3 trillion
= $4.5 trillion total
Gov employees cost the US = $3.3 TRILLION per year. (Salary + Benefits + Pensions (only) = no perks, travel, lodging, food, etc)

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How much do all gov employees cost? Chat GPT

The total cost of government employees in the U.S., including salaries, benefits, and pensions, is substantial. Here's an estimate based on federal, state, and local employment data:
Step 1: Total Government Employees
Federal: ~2.9 million civilian employees
State & Local: ~17 million employees
Total: ~20 million government employees

Step 2: Salary Costs
Federal: Average salary ~$95,000 → $275 billion
State & Local: Average salary ~$70,000 → $1.19 trillion
Total Salary Cost: ~$1.46 trillion

Step 3: Benefits (Healthcare, Paid Leave, etc.)
Benefits typically add ~40% to salary costs.
Total Benefits Cost: ~$580 billion

Step 4: Pension Costs
Public pension liabilities (state & local) require ~$1 trillion per year in funding.
Federal pensions add ~$250 billion per year.
Total Pension Cost: ~$1.25 trillion

Step 5: Grand Total (Salary + Benefits + Pensions)
💰 Estimated total cost: ~$3.3 trillion per year



That leaves $1.2 trillion to cover everything else! No wonder we are so dang deep in debt!!!



Most those gov employees are state/local & are covered by other taxes, so there is much more $. I was just using fed income tax to show how big the total bill is for gov employees is in the US.




Oh, okay.


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There are around 3 million federal employees. Not 20 million.

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Originally Posted by hawndog
There are around 3 million federal employees. Not 20 million.

Correct; 20 million working for state governments

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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
I give zero shits. Burn it down. I don't believe shit the media says. It's always got an angle and that angle will be to hurt America. Government is too big. Clean house. I don't care who makes the cuts, or who they cut. Simply don't give a damn.

There are some I'd like to see cut more than others. But everyone who does get cut will tell you they were essential and had done nothing wrong. 2/3 of them are lying. The other 1/3 are twisting the truth.


Nailed it

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