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#4285075 02/12/25 02:06 PM
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Anyone have one? Good , bad ?

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Personally, I would pass.


83% of all statistics are made up.

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I have 2 of them. surprisingly good quality solid turrets scope tracts very well and consistent . only down sides are on max power your eye relief has to be perfect to get a full view in scope and the low light transmission is nowhere near as good as a cheap leopold scope. for target shooting and even long range target shooting they are worth every penny but if you want a good hunting scope look elsewhere. just my .02 .

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Very heavy. The EP5 that I had was very heavy. Great scope for the money otherwise but the FFP didn't work for my purpose. And it was heavy.



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Originally Posted by DonH
I have 2 of them. surprisingly good quality solid turrets scope tracts very well and consistent . only down sides are on max power your eye relief has to be perfect to get a full view in scope and the low light transmission is nowhere near as good as a cheap leopold scope. for target shooting and even long range target shooting they are worth every penny but if you want a good hunting scope look elsewhere. just my .02 .

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Great for the money there are better but I like the ones I've got and I've got several high dollar scopes


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Personally, I would pass.

You are missing out on a great inexpensive scope


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Personally, I would pass.

You are missing out on a great inexpensive scope



Not from what I’ve seen.


83% of all statistics are made up.

N2TRKYS #4286682 02/14/25 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Personally, I would pass.

You are missing out on a great inexpensive scope



Not from what I’ve seen.

Explain.


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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Personally, I would pass.

You are missing out on a great inexpensive scope



Not from what I’ve seen.

Explain.


Their weight and not holding zero


83% of all statistics are made up.

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they are no heavier than my mark 4s or the nigth force scopes we use.

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Originally Posted by DonH
they are no heavier than my mark 4s or the nigth force scopes we use.



I don’t use them due to weight, either.


83% of all statistics are made up.

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I just checked out their website . They have some they call shooter / hunter and hunter scopes , goofiest hunting reticles I've ever seen.



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I have on a 7 mag. It's actually a nice scope. It's just to big and heavy for a deer rifle ...

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Decent scopes, for Chinesium.

Sit them beside really good scopes, and the differences are apparent. Eye box, eye relief, glare, edge to edge focus/clarity, color consistency.

Personally, I would rather have an older used Swarovski, Kahles, Zeiss, or Schmidt-Bender. Not hard to find one of those in the $400-$1000 range. I occasionally luck up and get one for less.

Pre-Covid, there were a bunch coming out of Europe at really great prices. My best European source holed up during the pandemic and I never heard from him again. Shame, because I was getting some great pricing from him that several folks on here got to share in.

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Checked ebay. There is a mis-marked Swaro Z3 (It's actually a Habicht) 3-10 x 42mm with zero bids, starting at $500 or best offer.

I have owned several of these, and they are top notch scopes. If you can get it for less than $800, you got a great deal, and just about the best scope at that price point.

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From what I've seen of them, they are pretty good bench rest scopes. Clear glass and accurate dialing.

For hunting though? As said, heavy, chunky, and probably not the brightest when it counts.

That said...I have not used one, so take it with a grain of salt.


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