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Is this a AR or a bolt rifle? i dont see where it would matter It does not unless you have a chassis on a bolt rifle to put a brace on or pay the king to have that short barrel. Remember if it crosses state lines you have to submit paperwork to the ATF or you are breaking the law.
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Is this a AR or a bolt rifle? i dont see where it would matter It does not unless you have a chassis on a bolt rifle to put a brace on or pay the king to have that short barrel. Remember if it crosses state lines you have to submit paperwork to the ATF or you are breaking the law. yeah but thats a different thing . i thinking up sizing not down sizing . lol
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I’m curious as to where all this is heading. I’m hoping the tax stamps won’t be in play soon. There’s so many work arounds but they’re a pita
I’ve been enjoying shooting more so than hunting lately and the AR platform is very interesting to me. 12.5 and even 10.5 barrels suppressed consistently hitting steel at a 1000 yards.
Like mentioned if it’s pinned to the barrel then the overall length is what matters to get it to 16 inches. This is an interesting concept. From a practical standpoint a 16" AR with another 6" of suppressor hanging off it isn't too long for most uses. And bluetooth ear muffs are pretty good on the target range. (I'm talking myself out of having a barrel made here.) Thanks for the Interesting link, I’m looking at these in a reflex so I can run a longer barrel but overall length is still somewhat short https://www.absuppressor.com/raptorThe problem is I’ll still have to have SBR and Suppressor stamps so I’m kinda waiting a little while longer.
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I keep color photocopy on hand. Originals in a safe.
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Is this a AR or a bolt rifle? i dont see where it would matter It does not unless you have a chassis on a bolt rifle to put a brace on or pay the king to have that short barrel. Remember if it crosses state lines you have to submit paperwork to the ATF or you are breaking the law. yeah but thats a different thing . i thinking up sizing not down sizing . lol Ah I gotcha you want to pin and weld to take it off the NFA list or add a stock instead of a brace. I've p&w a few 14.5 in it's very easy if you have a tig welder.
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Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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yeah ,,, end up with suppressed short barrel rifle with no tax . course they aint changed the rules on suppressers yet .
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If you’ve not spent much time behind 10.5-14.5” ARs running various suppressors, this entire thread might ‘seem’ like it makes sense. However, you’re just dickering with various degrees of ‘loud’. There’s no way I know of to get a 5.56 in a short barrel to anywhere near as quiet as most anything else in the same length barrel, suppressed. Sure, if you want to run 12” of AB, with 6” recessed, have 6” of rifling and 10” of baffles, or something, you might. Good gravy, talk about dirty as heck! You might get to hearing safe in a 10.5” with some setups, but not all. Point is: I’d probably never waste the time, effort, and $ on an integral 223, just to dodge a tax stamp. Two stamps is cheaper and easier. So is just having a pistol with a brace. That’s just my opinion from running more than a few SBR setups. I hate shooting short 5.56s, even though I have some. Give me a short blackout, 7.62x39, 6.8, ….whatever. The blast pressure on a short 223/5.56 is wicked at the muzzle.
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If you’ve not spent much time behind 10.5-14.5” ARs running various suppressors, this entire thread might ‘seem’ like it makes sense. However, you’re just dickering with various degrees of ‘loud’. There’s no way I know of to get a 5.56 in a short barrel to anywhere near as quiet as most anything else in the same length barrel, suppressed. Sure, if you want to run 12” of AB, with 6” recessed, have 6” of rifling and 10” of baffles, or something, you might. Good gravy, talk about dirty as heck! You might get to hearing safe in a 10.5” with some setups, but not all. Point is: I’d probably never waste the time, effort, and $ on an integral 223, just to dodge a tax stamp. Two stamps is cheaper and easier. So is just having a pistol with a brace. That’s just my opinion from running more than a few SBR setups. I hate shooting short 5.56s, even though I have some. Give me a short blackout, 7.62x39, 6.8, ….whatever. The blast pressure on a short 223/5.56 is wicked at the muzzle. for me the question was just for the info , i was looking at mares legs and thought ,,, uhmmmm?? i have a 30-30 with a messed up barrel . its a old but brand new Winchester. the back half is perfect but half of the barrel front end is rusted bad , i mean ate away bad too .
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What’s the deal with flow through suppressors
They seem to be a win win
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They help with gasses/dirt on back pressure, but they are more prone to flash and being less effective….depending.
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