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#4275307 01/27/25 12:56 PM
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Chinese startup coming in hot. under cutting Nividia, ChatGPT by developing large, multimodal and small language foundation models.

https://www.investors.com/news/tech...rtificial-intelligence-capital-spending/


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He literally is a true American hero. And True American Patriot - warts and all."
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And I'm sure there will be lots of people in this country lined up to use it to save a few bucks. Trump needs to get on top of this soon.

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Deepseek only spent 5.6 million for it's AI development.

Meta raised 65 Billion to do the same thing.

Sounds like US companies are becoming more like our government having to overspend by huge amounts when small start-ups can do the same thing for pennies.

AI Tech stocks are taking a dive today. Investors want their promised investment dollars back.


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It's easy to be cheap when you just simply steal the technology.

No different than everything else they do (i.e. TEMU).


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Originally Posted by Hunting-231
It's easy to be cheap when you just simply steal the technology.

No different than everything else they do (i.e. TEMU).


I fully agree.

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Andalusia #4275350 01/27/25 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Andalusia
Deepseek only spent 5.6 million for it's AI development.


Or at least that's what China wants us to believe...

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Originally Posted by 4ssss
Originally Posted by Hunting-231
It's easy to be cheap when you just simply steal the technology.

No different than everything else they do (i.e. TEMU).


I fully agree.


yep, Trump needs to go after whomever sold AI chips to the parent company, High Flyer. It's a day late and a dollar (yuan) short.


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He literally is a true American hero. And True American Patriot - warts and all."
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Even if they spent a Billion, that's cheap compared to what our companies are thinking it will cost.

Folks are adjusting their thinking. "Tech investor Marc Andreessen calls it "AI's Sputnik moment," causing US tech stocks to tumble this morning, with Nvidia the hardest hit, down 11%."


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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skinny crazy?<<<<<<<<<<<< Or jus looking at shit?


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maybe an AP shielding anybody can work with aint that bad of an idea?


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The right people for that kind of project are right HERE! Most important part of any project is _________________.


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yall in?


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Deepseek is not DEEP THOUGHT version 42.


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tik-tok tik-tok tik tok..boom.


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Originally Posted by Hunting-231
It's easy to be cheap when you just simply steal the technology.

No different than everything else they do (i.e. TEMU).

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an enter button is between us and extinction, and it can happen as an accident in a video game with a loose connector at the quarter slot.


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The spark in a hay barn kind of way.


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hallb #4275374 01/27/25 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by Andalusia
Deepseek only spent 5.6 million for it's AI development.


Or at least that's what China wants us to believe...


And Covid came from dead Bats at a meat market.



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Hunting-231 #4275375 01/27/25 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hunting-231
It's easy to be cheap when you just simply steal the technology.

No different than everything else they do (i.e. TEMU).


They also had about 5 years of farming TikTok to boost it along


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Originally Posted by Andalusia
Deepseek only spent 5.6 million for it's AI development.

Meta raised 65 Billion to do the same thing.

Sounds like US companies are becoming more like our government having to overspend by huge amounts when small start-ups can do the same thing for pennies.

AI Tech stocks are taking a dive today. Investors want their promised investment dollars back.


$6 million was the cost of the computing needed with only 2000 Nvidia chips to train their AI model; not their total investment.
But; it's a big break threw in cost

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