I actually went to Marks Wednesday to look for some better gloves than what I had and discovered them. I couldn’t turn down their half off sale on their camo that they had there or the price point of the high point pants and a Gunnison hoodie. After talking to the guy over that store section he told me that Pnuma was started from a former employee of Sitka. I wore it yesterday morning and the only layering I needed under the pants was literally one pair base layers and stayed comfortable all morning long. I’m looking for the high point jacket right now. Oh and I didn’t find any gloves that I wanted there! 😂😂