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There's another thread that got me thinking, does anyone who don't run dogs really still hunt with buckshot? Yes. Some woods are more suited to rifles. The woods where I hunt are more suited to a shotgun and buckshot. Where I hunt, if you can shoot 80 yards with a shotgun, it will cover 90% of the opportunities you get. Though a rifle would technically cover 100%, hitting a deer running flat out in thick woods is difficult. One of the most difficult shots I've made on a deer dog hunting was on a buck that was crossing a road tight enough that the bushes scrub both sides of my toyota when I drive it. I shot him twice crossing that road at 40 yards or so. Some might could have done that with a rifle, but not me.
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I’ve loaded 4buck TSS before. It shoots way farther than needed . Now all I use is T’s and F’s . Also switched to using a 20ga now. No need in a heavy 12anymore
as long as its .240" in dia it would be legal . What if it's not? I know factory OO is usually .32 cal when a 00 is supposed to be 33 cal. and factory #1 is often 28 cal instead of the 30 cal that its supposed to be. What if you open up a #4 buck shell and its actually 23 caliber? It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they aren't smaller. I guess if they are, they're not legal. He stated #4. What I was replying too of course any thing bigger is good My point is if that factory buckshot that is labeled #4 buck is actually smaller than 24 cal (which it likely is) then it technically wouldn't be legal by your definition (or the DNRs). If I had one laying around, I'd cut one open and find out. I don't have one laying around because, for deer hunting, IMO #4 buck is trash. If the fact that the manufacturer labeled it #4 buck makes it legal, then maybe a manufacturer will start labeling their shells "T buck". I also wander what the answer would have been had you asked a different GW. If Alabama GWs are anything like Florida GWs, if you ask 5 the same question, you'll get 5 different answers. That is a job that requires a lot of discretion.
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I just moved some stuff around in my gun closet and a Federal #4 buck shell fell out of the bottom of an old grocery bag full of loose shells. Like it was meant to be! I cut that sucker open and it is bigger than 23 cal, but not quite 24. What now?...
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Buckshot77 pick up the phone call Montgomery ask the ones thats suppose to know like I did . I don't expect any one to take what I say as fact .
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Shooting T’s and F’s for deer hunting is the equivalent of shooting 9’s and 10’s at turkeys. When the TSS turkey rage started, these were illegal too but now a lot of states made them legal. The TSS buckshot will probably follow suit.
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Buckshot77 pick up the phone call Montgomery ask the ones thats suppose to know like I did . I don't expect any one to take what I say as fact . No thanks. I don't hunt with buckshot in Alabama, for the time being anyway. They'll probably have it straightened out by the time I do.
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Who wants to shoot one with a bird load anyway? There is a reason for a certain size pellet. Where I am from buckshot is illegal and if am glad it is.
All you need to know is. Dead deer don't grow!
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Me. I do. It is very deadly within its range limitations. Much faster and easier to hit with than a rifle. What you are calling birdshot will extend the range of a shotgun beyond what was previously thought possible.
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