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Quit watching the ball and JUST WATCH A SINGLE O LINEMAN!!! Then watch the same play and move down the line. Watch them on run plays. Watch them on RPOs. It’s crazy to me that you guys think Milroe’s play makes the o line look bad. They are bad. They don’t just look bad. They are very very bad. Especially the tackles.

Milroe did not play great at times. He played really well at times. His play was driven by the o line’s success. This is how it goes on most teams. Most fans just don’t like to watch the part of football where the ball isn’t.

Agree; go watch the Oklahoma game; not Milroe's best game at all; but the line was terrible. Especially tackle Pritchett; glad he is gone.

Milroes gone too so y'all don't have to bitch about him any more.

Agreed and I think Milroe lost some confidence having to run for his life on most pass plays. He just might be another Bo Nix in a different environment but only time will tell.

Some players have the ability to turn bad games around. Things happen beyond their control and they find a way to rise above it. Milroe isn’t that kind of player. He needs confidence to play well. He needs to be able to trust those guys up front. When they play well up front he settles in and gets comfortable and plays well. When they don’t, he don’t. PLENTY of great players are wired that way. He lost confidence in their ability to run block as well. He and the offensive coaches also had no confidence that the defense was going to win on 3rd down and get off the field. This affects their offensive mind set and play calling.

We will just have to agree to disagree. The O line was not good by Bama standards and that was apparent all season, but Milroe was the drizzling chits the second half of the season other than the LSU game where he did the only thing he's strong at which is running. If you think Milroe's problem was solely the O Line then like I said, we can agree to disagree.

Of course they were the problem. They were all so tall it blocked him seeing all the wide open receivers.😀

The o line was not good by ANY standards. The thing is, you watch the game and you think Milroe had a problem. You have to look past that at the why. What affected him and why. Did he make some bad decisions on his own, sure he did. They all do. But bad offensive line play compounds everything else.

Where's CNC in Milroe's Defense??

The fella is gone now nd I wish him the best. However, I do feel sorry for the next QB in line. That guy is gonna have a microscope on him.

I’ve been as big a Milroe supporter as anybody and think the team could have done a lot worse…BUT…I’ve watched multiple videos in the past few weeks that sure do make it look like Milroe’s pre-snap foot alignment was tipping the defense as to what type play we were running. Called run play, his feet would be square to the line of scrimmage. Called pass play and his plant foot would be a half step further back than his left foot. I know they run a lot of RPO’s so who knows how that would factor in but you cannot deny what the video shows.

I saw the guy on YouTube talking about that. Don’t you think the QB coach, OC, Offensive Analyst, and any of the other 10 people breaking down the offenses prior game film would have noticed it if it held true and affected anything? Every position is graded pretty hard at that level.

Also tendencies run deep in offensive football. The defense knows tendencies by formation coupled with down and distance. Now these are just tendencies but they are still a good indicator of what is coming as far as if it is a run/pass. And also there is the RPO aspect of it as you said. But if you want to get YouTube famous and generate clicks for your bank account, it is a good narrative to push. I don’t believe the Alabama coaching staff would miss something like that but that is just my opinion.

I think you are correct Pwyse. Too many WRs running wide open all over the field on short and intermediate routes all season, for him to have been tipping every passing or run play. Bama's backs also averaged right at 5 yds a carry too. So no, I dont think his foot position was a tell. You're 100% correct, tape from dozens of angles. Coaches look for that stuff, especially when the offense is having the problems that Bama's did all year with sustaining drives. Open WRs and 5 yd carry averages dont happen when defenses know what is coming.

Also, go back and watch Milroe's games and especially his bad ones, and put a stop watch on him in the pocket. Avg time for an NFL caliber QB from snap, to making a decision, and getting the ball in the air is 2.65-2.85 sec with the slowest being around 3.1 and there arent but a few that are over 3 and that's probably because they have the line to afford them the luxury of the additional time. Let's just say that Millie seems to hold the ball just a wee bit longer than that on any play that is not a single read, designed quick throw like a quick slant, screen or hot route dump off. He's simply too slow in processing what he sees and too indecisive. If the ball is supposed to be out at 2.6 to 3.0 but and he holds it for even an extra second, let alone sometimes two or three extra while he's looking all around trying to decide, the line is having to block equally good athletes for sometimes double the normal required amount of time to execute the play/throw. So yes, that too will make the line look overtly bad because when that happens. The line is then being asked to do more than normally required and you see the pocket collapsing, the QB having to take off, or the line having to hold to protect him, or he gets sacked. It's definitely on both parties. Yes the oline sucked often this year and the defense was on Milroe in a flash some plays, but on others Milroe had the time and didnt get it done. Yes Milroe probably lost his confidence (happens easy when you are not a very good decision maker or accurate throwing QB to start with) but he had serious trouble finding open WRs and completing passes to wide open receivers, even when he had 4-6 sec to stand back and throw which also happened quite a bit all year too. The blame goes to both the line and the QB because neither was very good. Both sucked miserably at times.

Doesnt really matter because he's gone, which IMO, is a good thing for Bama's offense and future. Bill O called exactly what was going to happen when he was the OC, 2 seasons before this past one, and with his experience and resume, I'd venture to say he probably knows just a little bit about what he is coaching and seeing in a QB. Can someone else in the NFL fix all his problems and bring him to the level of excellence his ridiculous athletic assets will allow? He has the speed, physical attributes and body type to be the best ever, but like I've said many times, the greatest athletes on the field will play QB in HS and dominate everyone, but they do not normally translate to great QBs once they leave the HS level of play and the talent pool, at every other position on the field, increases too. That's when the accurate, super intelligent guys rise to the top. Football IQ, processing speed, footwork, pocket presence, release speed and accuracy, all matter way more at the QB position than how fast someone can run and athletic you are, once you get out of high school.

Abolt anyone with any sense understands holding the ball too long is not the o lineman’s fault. And there were times when Milroe held it too long. I never count that situation sack as the line’s fault. And although it did happen it wasn’t the norm by far. The norm was defensive players running free or around or over offensive lineman. It was absolutely the norm on pass and run plays. If Milroe hadn’t had been so athletic it would have been much worse. Could you imagine McCarron or Coker with that o line? Good Lord those goobers would have been sacked a million times.

With the final score for Milroe's historic and record breaking tenure at Bama (2021-2024) finishing up with only the following two headline worthy credentials: NO Nattys and NO Heisman's. CNC has evidently elected to exercise fifth amendment right to say "NO comment".

He's too busy in the deer talk forum stirring the pot with deer tags bullschitt again.

We should probably cut him some slack. His mind is just not in a good spot right now as he’s obviously suffering through a severe case of the DTs caused by tracking withdrawal syndrome

So are we killing too many deer today, or not enough? Do we need to shoot more bucks and save the does or kill more does and save all the young bucks in order to have more older bucks which will mean more tracking calls for him to run? It gets kinda confusing at times.

Kill em all over as much corn as you can afford.

Maybe the next Bama QB will win a heisman and a natty or two. And maybe they will find a tackle that doesn’t play in quick sand.

Give me.a strong, quick footed 295-310 lb tackle, that moves well, with good hands, and good technique and you can keep all the huge bodied 335-350 lb slow, fat,, jelly doughnut eating lard asses like Bama had this year, at the Krispy Kreme where they belong, and off the football field

I’ve said for years we are asking too much of these tackles. Now that the TE position is only used to run block if an offense even runs one, tackles are left to protect the QB against these edge rushers. The edge rushers have developed into these hybrid LBers that are crazy quick athletes. But the tackle position hasn’t changed. Still the big strong fat guy that used to block DT on protections. The old TEs could handle the edge guys but these tackles usually struggle with them.