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Just pointing out reality.
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Mbrock - i would quit if i never had atleast 1 mature to go after. I really only had 1 good shooter last year until last week one of my regs showed up I keep pressure at best spots way down - that helps lot. I hear all this corn and killing mature - my deer i think are different. My 5 year old plus dont just stand over a corn pile in daylight. But it took my deer 2 freaking years to get use to a banks gravity. Put a trough feeder there at big field year and 1/2 ago. Still not fully use to it and i put corn on the ground around it every time i feed. I took cameras down one side of my property cause they so spooky over cameras and feeders. I killed best deer on my property last year - but he was checking for doe and checking field and all the way down to feb 3rd. I got 9 mature this year and may be lucky to kill 2. I keep pressure down and hav big field where i can usually leave without them seeing me
I do try to out feed my neighbor - i want his deer and i use legal advantages to enhance mine. I rather not hav corn - but if we feeding then game on
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Just pointing out reality.
š¤·š¼āāļøš I like a good debate/ conversation. Thatās how we learn. Especially when itās from 2 totally different areas. Everyone sees things through a different lens and we can all give ours opinions. God Blesse America!!
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Good debates... I just hate to be talked down to because I don't hunt/manage like somebody else. Our goals are likely not the same.
Last edited by treemydog; 01/04/25 09:38 AM.
You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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Good debates... I just hate to be talked down to because I don't hunt/manage like somebody else. Our goals are likely not the same. True!! Which makes for a good debate. Especially on this topic because Iām on both sides of the coin and have real world experience with being the bigger land guy and the small land guy. Also I know the the broad spectrum of a deer hunters mindset. At my age and as long as Iāve been hunting, Iāve been through every stage except 100% trophy hunter and I hope I never get to that point. If I see a good buck and he makes me huff and take a deep breath, thereās a strong possibility heās gonna get shot at. And if itās a buck the neighbors were wanting to let grow and I didnāt know about it, well Iām hate it for them. Iād expect them to do the same if they had the opportunity. If a deer walks in front of me, at that time itās my deer, my choice!! Have I made the wrong choice before? Of course I did and Iām sure Iāll make the wrong choice again. Itās human nature. The thing with me is if you ask if we can work together, Iām in 100% with you but if you try to tell me what I can and canāt shoot on my property I control, you will be very disappointed in the results. At the end of the day I just want to go sit in Godās magnificent creation and relax and not worry about anything and if I decide to shoot a deer, I want to celebrate that deer and enjoy everything about killing that deer.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Good debates... I just hate to be talked down to because I don't hunt/manage like somebody else. Our goals are likely not the same. Yessir each to his own. Personally if its not a mature mount worthy buck I dont pull the trigger but i can respect thats not everyone's style of hunting. most of the time its those high dollar "trophy" hunters or silver spoon freeloading hunters talking down to those who dont chose to hunt the way they do. Everyone isnt blessed with the same hunting opportunities.
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Corn and cameras have zero to do with herd management. The only way to manage a herd should be to manage how many deer are killed, not how or by whom they are killed. This is easily accomplished in states that care about their wildlife. This is not one of those states. It should be done by county, and on a regular basis. It should be determined how many deer are in a county, and where the herd wants to be. If 1000 deer can be shot in pike county, and only 100 people hunt there, over the counter tags, only 1000 of them. If 1000 people hunt in Macon county, and only 100 deer need to be killed, lottery. For the states budget divide amout of tags by amount of budget set price, it's that simple. It's also fair. If you have five tags and want to kill them on 5 acres over corn with a camera, do it, it doesn't affect anyone else. If you draw buy a tag, and your from new York, it doesn't affect anyone else. Only way to do effectively. If you are die hard and want to manage even more, buy tags and don't use them, works for everyone, except the people who want to shoot an obscene amout of deer. And don't give me this bull crap I need them to feed my family. If that were true people would be starving in north east and out west. Get a job to feed your family!!!
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It baffled my mind yall canāt see this. Some folks are intentionally ānot getting itāā¦ā¦and dont want others to. They're just trying to muddy the waters  Let me ask you this question and give an honest answer. ? If you want to ask them a really interesting question, then ask them why they are doing this ^^^^ and see if we get an honest answer.....Hmmmm
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Good debates... I just hate to be talked down to because I don't hunt/manage like somebody else. Our goals are likely not the same. I hope that what Iāve said hasnāt come across that way. I am in no staying thereās one way to hunt and the state should manage for trophy hunting. I just hate to see people unable to accomplish their objectives because of what everyone else is doing. Thereās got to be a compromise. I know itās not a problem everywhere. Where itās a problem itās a bad one.
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Good debates... I just hate to be talked down to because I don't hunt/manage like somebody else. Our goals are likely not the same. Yessir each to his own. Personally if its not a mature mount worthy buck I dont pull the trigger but i can respect thats not everyone's style of hunting. most of the time its those high dollar "trophy" hunters or silver spoon freeloading hunters talking down to those who dont chose to hunt the way they do. Everyone isnt blessed with the same hunting opportunities. well said. I especially like the last part of the sentence..
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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It baffled my mind yall canāt see this. Some folks are intentionally ānot getting itāā¦ā¦and dont want others to. They're just trying to muddy the waters  Let me ask you this question and give an honest answer. ? If you want to ask them a really interesting question, then ask them why they are doing this ^^^^ and see if we get an honest answer.....Hmmmm I guess because some people are just imbeciles, and think everyone should always agree with them, no mater how retarded they are?
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This reminds me of NIL. Pay for play has been going on since the 1800s. Make it legal and now the schools that had a system to cheat are the ones bitching the most. Canāt have these nobodies getting āmyā players!!!!
Jesus.
Iām sure that high pressure 5 acres is more attractive than your select cut, rotational burn, and food plot heaven with little pressure. Yea, that makes perfect sense.
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No, Iām seeing bucks on a regular basis on 4 different properties, in 3 different Counties, in 3 different Alabama deer zones. Most are not what I want to kill, and in opinion I donāt have unrealistic expectations of killing 130ā+ deer in pine plantations, but there are a few I have killed and a few I would if I could. I have corn feeders on every property, donāt hunt over the feeders. Canāt control what my neighbors do on their place and donāt worry about them. Weāre trying to have fun.
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Hereās the part that I have a hard time understandingā¦ā¦Iffin you want to manage by the method of āperception is realityāā¦.. using bullchit and persuasion to convince the public that everything is always awesomeā¦ā¦then why even create a data set like Game Check to get in the way of that??....Why create it and then just constantly try to convince everyone that it doesnāt mean anythingā¦.dont look over here!...ā¦ā¦Makes no sense to me⦠Are there conflicting opinions on how to manage amongst the powers that be??
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Looking pretty good for us in Dallas Co..
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Hereās the part that I have a hard time understandingā¦ā¦Iffin you want to manage by the method of āperception is realityāā¦.. using bullchit and persuasion to convince the public that everything is always awesomeā¦ā¦then why even create a data set like Game Check to get in the way of that??....Why create it and then just constantly try to convince everyone that it doesnāt mean anythingā¦.dont look over here!...ā¦ā¦Makes no sense to me⦠Are there conflicting opinions on how to manage amongst the powers that be?? Didnāt our boy Chuck create Game Check?......It kinda makes me wonder if he isnt as bad as everyone likes to make him out to beā¦ā¦Maybe its just Ag and Insurance that are the ones wanting the waters to stay muddyā¦ā¦I donāt knowā¦ā¦Like I said, why would you even create GC if thatās your intentions
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buck sightings are up but harvest is way down for us. Ithink all the mature bucks hopped in someones hot tub time machine or a portal perhaps.
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Are there conflicting opinions on how to manage amongst the powers that be?? You want to field this one Matt?
You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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