Have you noticed more people shooting subsonic CNC? I've tracked 3 deer shot with the same 8.6 shooting subsonic 450gr bullets. One was a miss, one showed back up on camera and couldn't tell where it was hit and the one today got up and smoked us about 1,400 yards into the track. All of them have been shot from 200ish yards. Pretty positive the bullets aren't penetrating much if any at all. I've tracked a few 300 blackouts shooting subsonics but close shots no pass throughs and no blood but found them