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I was not talking about protection from this disease. Also i guess my point is if a deer was release with this disease then he would soon die. He could infect other deer before he died, but all deer affected by this would die out by winter and there would be no lsting affect. The total number of deer would not be large in numbers since they issue isnt midges but 1 single deer affecting maybe a couple more. This would be worst case! But again i was told by the imdivisuals that test would be conducted on all captive animals before they where purchased. They them selve dont have any interest in buying a $5000 deer thats going to die in a month! Oh and me saying shutup was to the people on here not that are trashing some pretty good guys who have consulted with diffrent biologist and vets. Trashing people when you have no idea about whats has really gone on, well maybe that tells me what i need to know about you. It goes both ways!

EHD is already here, the project will have no effect.
I answered your questions, how about mine? Who is the "best know biologist in the State?
Who was the biologists(s) that were consulted for the "project"?

Bill, I agree that the hoopla is all about nothing. Just in a diffrent way. If you read my first post i said this was bascially a dumb idea and wouldnt work. I just take offense to guys trashing these men for trying to do something for their community even if its not going to work. I see you are from greenville, i just left the Big city of Pine Apple. Do you hunt over in that area?

Dang, I just can't get Longbow, justhangin and now you (all sent in to defend this project) to answer ANY questions. Y'all come in trashing and demanding answers to your questions but won't answer any of your own.

Well im not going to put the name of another guy on here but my friend is a younger guy and his first name starts with Ga! He is on the QDMA show and in several magazines. He's is young but very passinate about deer. If you know his name dont post it please. As far as who they consulted i would guess westervelt but i didnt ask. There are several biologist in the area that work on larger farms and plantations down here. But again i didnt ask. Email them they will let you know im sure. Also if the project will have no effect on EHD then whats the fuss?

My friend did say that this would have little long term effects on the genetic of the area. He said cool idea but thats about it!

Hey i think i became a 3pointer after all theses post!

CWD and genetic modifications is the fuss

He ain't "the best know biologist" if I don't know of him. Westervelt has come out publicly AGAINST this project as has QDMA (so much for your guy). Westervelt went as far as to float the idea of offering a bounty for any one killing one of these deer.

I hope they all get shot opening day... So this discussion will be over..

? Gobble did you know Claude Nelson?

I think i said one of the best, maybe i didnt but he is very well known and respected! Westervelt was a guess! I have no idea who they talked to. Go to auburn deer program and he the only one they talk about and i realize that QDMA hates the idea and theyare against it but he is on their show and on i think Game keepers so some one thinks he knows something! Also doesnt the usda require all deer in pens to be checked for CWD?

Nope, knew Dave well and sons, no Claude.

Claude worked for the state for years and was the head biologist for the state before he died a couple of years ago. A good man, nothing to do with this pissing contest but just thought you might have known him! He help us with our properties. He was from demoplis area. Great guy.

Manages some of your properties? Now, what properties might those be?

David Nelson......killed in an accident soon after he retired. Good man, I worked with his a good bit.

and ya'll are making my head hurt....

Another biologist here with a question? Everyone is talking about introducing ehd or blue tongue by stocking these deer (or the possibility anyhow). Here is my question, if the deer in the pens already have it, can the midge not fly out or over the fence and bite a wild deer? The deer in the fence would have had to be bitten right?

I do some work for a high fence operator. I do think you need genetics, but I think it is mostly food. Those guys poor the feed to them.

some of ya'l are confusing CWD and EHD, a common mistake. EHD is here, has been here, and ain't going away any time soon.

CWD is different and we don't want it here..ever.

what "genetic modifications" are we talking about.....

Your right i think it was David Nelson. I think claude might work for the afw association. I have the names mixed up, Claude is a good man too. As for what i ment about prperties We have some family land as does a couple of good friends. We sometimes get them to help us. Anyway im done with the pissing contest yall win i give up, my hands hurt! Good luck monday!

That's something that puzzles me, why release them now? They could be shot, relocate, etc. Why not early in the breeding period? They might want to stick around and have a little fun. BTW the rut in LA is after season closes so they might not get shot. This makes no sense for so many reasons. Maybe getting shot opening day is the plan .