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The defense is the issue. Not the offense, not the time of possession, not the quick hitting drives by the offense, it's the defense. It's NOT the offense's fault the defense can't get off the field. This is 2024 not 1990. Adjustments are made in real time. It takes 1 communication to make an adjustment. Heck they are talking to the defensive SECONDS BEFORE THE BALL IS SNAPPED EVERY PLAY. There are iPads on the sidelines, 15 headsets. All they have to do is get off the dang field on 3rd and long. Saban built Alabama defenses for 3rd and med/long. They couldn't get off the field on 3rd or 4th down in Georgia and it should have cost them the game. They couldn't get off the field on 3rd down today and it did cost them the game. 35 points should be enough to be that Vandy team all day. Did the offense play perfect, heck no. But they played well enough to win. The defense was terrible in both aspects run and pass. And like I said after the first game, they are terrible on the back end. Terrible. They were terrible there last year too. 35-45 points is enough to win a game. If that doesn't win then it's a defensive problem. Blaming the offense for the defense being tired is BS. If they would get off the field in third down they wouldn't be tired. It would be like saying well the offense can't get a first down because the defense keeps going 3 and out and doesn't let the offense rest. It's just a dumb fan/ announcer point of emphasis that makes zero sense. Those guys are in good enough shape to play 3 plays, then rest for 3 plays while the offense is out there, and then go back in for 3 plays. Get off the field on 3rd down and it's not an issue.

Abolt I agree, you live by the big play, you die by the big play. But they didn't die by the big play... they scored 35 points. That is alive and well. They died because the defense sucks and they can't play man well enough to come after anyone.

Life goes on . Gonna be a blessed day

The defense is the issue. Not the offense, not the time of possession, not the quick hitting drives by the offense, it's the defense. It's NOT the offense's fault the defense can't get off the field. This is 2024 not 1990. Adjustments are made in real time. It takes 1 communication to make an adjustment. Heck they are talking to the defensive SECONDS BEFORE THE BALL IS SNAPPED EVERY PLAY. There are iPads on the sidelines, 15 headsets. All they have to do is get off the dang field on 3rd and long. Saban built Alabama defenses for 3rd and med/long. They couldn't get off the field on 3rd or 4th down in Georgia and it should have cost them the game. They couldn't get off the field on 3rd down today and it did cost them the game. 35 points should be enough to be that Vandy team all day. Did the offense play perfect, heck no. But they played well enough to win. The defense was terrible in both aspects run and pass. And like I said after the first game, they are terrible on the back end. Terrible. They were terrible there last year too. 35-45 points is enough to win a game. If that doesn't win then it's a defensive problem. Blaming the offense for the defense being tired is BS. If they would get off the field in third down they wouldn't be tired. It would be like saying well the offense can't get a first down because the defense keeps going 3 and out and doesn't let the offense rest. It's just a dumb fan/ announcer point of emphasis that makes zero sense. Those guys are in good enough shape to play 3 plays, then rest for 3 plays while the offense is out there, and then go back in for 3 plays. Get off the field on 3rd down and it's not an issue.

Abolt I agree, you live by the big play, you die by the big play. But they didn't die by the big play... they scored 35 points. That is alive and well. They died because the defense sucks and they can't play man well enough to come after anyone.

Could be worse, we could be UGA fans. Last week they lost to a team that got beat by Vandy.

Against Vandys defense, our heisman and his 10 other 5 star player offense should’ve scored 60. Problems are on both sides so the ball.

Ouch

Actually they are pretty good. You should watch the game and their previous games. They just aren't very consistent. They played more consistent against Bama.

Shocked the world last night.... Ya'll see them toting the goal post thru the streets...

Hard to score points when you're not on the field

Are you honestly trying to say that with Bama’s heisman candidate, the greatest athlete to ever put on a college uniform, and an offense chock full of 5 stars, with another dozen or so sitting fully rested, on the bench behind them, that Bama shouldn’t be expected to score more points against Vandy than those three teams. C’mon Pwyse. Yes the defense is suspect, especially the backfield, and has been since the start. We’ve discussed that at length. But Bama’s offense, and every player on it, while explosive at times, is also highly overrated with the exception of Williams. Ground game was anemic yesterday, including the heisman himself, and once again over half of Bama’s total passing yards came on just 2-3 big 50+ yard plays. Steady drives, repeated consecutive first downs and time of possession actually do matter. Steady consistent drives and first downs, keeps the defense off the field and wins ball games.

Bama doesn’t have a coaching problem. Bama, like most everyone else has a team issue. Saban saw it last year and didn’t want to deal with it anymore, so he hung it up. Like Mrs Terry told him, “the players have changed, why are we even trying to do this any more”. With NIL, no lost eligibility for transfers, and the portal, Saban realized it had become impossible to fix it because he no longer had the leverage and financial control over the players and their futures. If he cracks down on them, they simply quit and immediately show up in a different colored uniform. The college game has irreversibly changed. Deboer is now tasked with fixing things and producing a winning product, but dynasties are over in college football. The days of building a true “team” for a championship run and dominant teams running the table undefeated, will be few and far between. This might be a good thing for this Bama team because they were obviously listening to CNC and believing their own hype and press. Bama will be fine and the playoffs will be full of 1 and 2 loss teams. It’s the new college football model.

This^^^- Can’t blame the Offense for a loss at all when the opposing team held the ball for 40 minutes and change and Bama held the ball for 17 minutes and change. The Defense could not get off the field if their lives literally depended upon it. When Your DC keeps putting 5 and 6 players in the box instead of 7 and 8 players in the box to combat and put and end to the gimmick offense then You will get the results Bama got yesterday.

Actually they are pretty good. You should watch the game and their previous games. They just aren't very consistent. They played more consistent against Bama.

I didn't watch the game but didn't I read the this great Heisman QB and offense had two turnovers that resulted in 14 Vandy points? If that is true, then I don't think you can pin this huge embarrassment completely on the defense.

Is that Friar Tuck?