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Other than the fact that illegals should not be eligible for any type of unemployment benefits or any assistance at all for that matter. All US benefits, paid for with US tax dollars, should be for US citizens only. Quit giving out the freebies, and people will quit coming in by the millions, illegally. There is a clearly established and defined process for legal immigration and citizenship into the US. Follow the rules and do everything right, welcome. Dont follow the rules and just show up, you should be tossed off the top of the border wall and land on the Mexican side, with a heavy thud. It's honestly ridiculous. Go abroad and try to cross illegally into almost any other sovereign country. Try to escape into that country and you'll be hunted down and you'll either be jailed or executed on the spot.

I get what you are saying but the thing about these Haitian immigrants is that they are by and large, legal. They are coming though the proper channels with protected status and have been since the middle of 2020

"This growth is notable in part because Haitian migration to the United States was already increasing prior to Haiti’s mid-2021 crises, reinforcing the evidence that migrants reaching the United States in recent weeks have likely been on the move for years. That said, it is worth noting that the Biden administration has offered Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to Haitians who were in the United States as of July 29, 2021, granting them temporary work authorization and protection from deportation for 18 months. While this action will not affect Haitians recently attempting to cross the border, it did extend protections to 55,000 Haitians already with TPS in the United States and will allow an estimated 100,000 more to apply for new protection. Misinformation about TPS eligibility and about the general availability of legal status in the United States may have been one factor for migrants trying to reach the U.S. border, along with push factors out of South America and the easing of some COVID-19-related travel restrictions"

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/haitian-migration-through-americas

Abolt the problem is these are not illegals. They are refugees. Refugees fall under a completely different set of rules. The USA takes in refugees all the time and there are many tax payer funded programs for them.

I'm not saying I agree with what we are doing for the refugees. I'm just saying that they aren't illegal immigrants. Supposedly there is a vetting system for them as well. But who knows?

According to the rule of law, Refugee programs have to be proposed by the president and then formally ratified and specifically approved by Congress. Refugee programs are supposed to be specific in nature and presented to Congress prior to initiation. To the best of my knowledge, that second requirement has never been officially met for any of what has gone on for the past 4 years. The Biden administration proposed it by simply bringing them in, secretly, on chartered flights, in the dead of night, as well as just opening the borders and failing to adhere to proper/established admissions requirements for asylum seeker either. By definition, not formally being approved by Congress in writing, they are illegal. Just like the student loan forgiveness and a ton of other things that the Biden administration has just taken upon themselves to do without following the law and going through the proper processes and procedures.

They are not refugees at all, they are not asylum seekers, and they are not immigrants.
These Haitians are Excommunicated Haitians.
Haiti does not have a functioning prison system, but they have the Democrat Party in the United States courtesy of Bill and Hillary Clinton. These people are the people Haiti does not want. The violent criminals and rapists, and sex traffickers, and mentally ill VooDoo freaks from hell. That is what this variety of Haitian is.

A large portion of the Haitians coming through the southern border crossed through 14 different countries on their way to the Mexican border. Yep, there is defined route that they take. It's available on an app showing them the way and exactly what they need to say at each checkpoint to continue on, until they get into the US. If they are truly seeking refuge and asylum, why would they walk or be driven straight through all these other "Safe" countries and end up at the US border. It's not about being a refugee or asylum seeker, it's about getting to the country that will give them the most free stuff. Technically, they were supposed to seek asylum in the first safe country that they crossed into but obviously, that isnt happening in most cases.

I thought or Guvment was flying most of the Haitians in direct. They pass go and collect way more than $200.

Wrote Britts office and this was the response. Paragraph 3 is one of the ways they are getting in and circumventing the immigration laws.

Katie said it so it must be true

They are. But a boat ride from Haiti to Mobile is just a little over half a day and they can get more on a boat than a plane with less American public exposure. Not many news media hang out at the docks, but everybody at an airport is a news reporter.

Exactly as I stated above. She says in paragraph 3 that this program is illegal and violates federal law, which it most certainly does. So, if Trump gets elected, I fully expect him to round them up and fly them all back to wherever they came from, since the republicans in congress have been too weak and feckless to sue the Biden administration for clearly violating federal law. Trump doesnt need to wait for a judge to rule on it or even follow the judge's ruling if he says they cannot deport them. Just do like the Biden admin has repeatedly done, ignore the ruling do what you want.

Ahhhh, so ours get the dinner cruise .

Between Mobile and New Orleans there must be a dozen or more daily round trips with standard cargo vessels to Haiti and the DR. A standard 100 foot cargo boat can carry 500 Haitians for half a day no problem.

The first paragraph says they won’t do chit…best of luck folks 🤣😂🤣

When did the Clinton’s get involved with Haiti? There’s some kind of bill from 1980 that gives them asylum.

I think it was around 2010 +/- after a huge Hurricane wiped the place out. Bill went in and used the Clinton foundation to launder $ and I reckon he's been meddling and laundering $ down there ever since.

It doesn't matter if it violates the law. They are here and being protected by the government through refugee status. The same government that makes the laws is creating programs that violate it. And the rest of government knows it and does nothing. So like I said, they aren't here as illegal immigrants.