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Glad He Doesn’t Have One
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Kicking around the idea of getting another rifle. Thinking about a 7mm PRC. What are y'all's thoughts about the Ruger American vs the M77 Hawkeye? Is the Hawkeye worth the extra money?
I have the old M77 Mark II in .30-06 and love it. Never owned an American or the Hawkeye.
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Both are good shooters but the m77 is definitely a better built rifle. I am a firm believer in not having to make this decision so I would just buy both.
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Both are good shooters but the m77 is definitely a better built rifle. I am a firm believer in not having to make this decision so I would just buy both. There is no other logical solution. Must buy both. 
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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😂 I will probably get a Ruger American predator in 6.5 CM for my grandson that is due to be born early November. And then go with the M77 in 7 PRC for me. Yeah that sounds good 🤣
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I have two Ruger rifles, both are good enough shooters accuracy wise, but not great shooters. One is an old M77 Tanger 7x57, the other is a M77 Hawkeye 257 Roberts. I can get MOA accuracy out of both but not any better, and both can be finicky with bullet selection and powder charge.
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I have two Ruger rifles, both are good enough shooters accuracy wise, but not great shooters. One is an old M77 Tanger 7x57, the other is a M77 Hawkeye 257 Roberts. I can get MOA accuracy out of both but not any better, and both can be finicky with bullet selection and powder charge. So I am partial to the M77s not because they are top performers. I mean my .06 does fine for what I use it for. That was just the first rifle I bought brand new. Freshman of high school, worked all summer, had some cash and my grandfather had 3 boat paddle M77s and that is who I hunted with. ( my dad was a city boy from Pensacola) so I bought a new boat paddle M77 and hunted with it all my life. I've had a few other rifles that shot a little better but I always seem to gravitate back to that one. I actually traded it to deadeye a few years ago on a wild hair. He put a Boyd's laminated stock on it and sent me a pic of it and I almost cried. He then traded it back to me a few months later 🤣 funny how things work out. So looking at my situation, what rifle in that price range would you choose? I'm a wood and stainless/blued guy. Not much on the composite stuff anymore.
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i got a m77 in 7mag i never use any more but itll out shoot any rifle i had .
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If you can afford it, def go with the M77. Not that there’s anything wrong with the American, they’re just in a different class when it comes to build quality
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77 is better built but the American will probably be more accurate.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
"I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers." George Mason
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I've always liked the M77MkII. My son, a good friend and I have GSRs (total of 4). They are all great shooters and feed and function great. You'll need to work on the trigger if you like a clean, light pull. Current Ruger barrels are usually very good.
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Get the Hawkeye. They are a fine rifle.
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These days, if I'm looking for wood stocks and blued steel I'm looking for a Winchester M70. If you can find a used M70 Clsssic Super Grade, they made some accurate rifles with fine wood at the old factory in New Haven.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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I got a M77 in .270. Made in the 1980s. It was my dad’s and it is a very fine rifle. Every deer that was on the wrong on of that gun ended up at the processor. But I get wanting something new. I’m getting that same itch for a new shotgun.
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I have both. M77 mark2 that was the first rifle I bought, and one of the first Americans they came out with. I tend to grab the American more than the other, mainly due to not wanting to bang up a pretty gun.
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The American is going to shoot better but given the choice between the 2 I'd go with the Hawkeye it's just a nicer rifle all around.
You have to come to terms with the fact that when there was a race to see who could make the cheapest gun shoot the best.... Ruger won over Tikka.
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The American is going to shoot better but given the choice between the 2 I'd go with the Hawkeye it's just a nicer rifle all around.
You have to come to terms with the fact that when there was a race to see who could make the cheapest gun shoot the best.... Ruger won over Tikka.
Thanks for your input. Was hoping you would chime in. I know you are a fan but f the Ruger Americans.
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Why can’t Ruger make their nice rifle shoot as good as their budget riffle?
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
"I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers." George Mason
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Why can’t Ruger make their nice rifle shoot as good as their budget riffle? That's a good question.
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ill guess he meant as for cheaper rifles ruger is better . i dont think he meant budget rifles shot better than the nicer ones . just a guess???
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Naw, he literally meant the cheap ass Tupperware stocked Ruger American will outshoot the Hawkeye M77 seven days a week and twice on Sundays. It doesn’t make good sense.
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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