Sounds like we're confusing perennial with annual and Rye Grass with Cereal Rye. I'll NEVER plant another rye grass seed on my property. Bout the only way to kill it is spray it at least twice, in spring and summer with hot gly . That stuff is bad as Kudzu !

Cereal Rye and Black Oats are a great foundation for plots. Throw in a couple varieties of clover and a little chicory and you got a deer salad bar.



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