The old timer that took me in and taught me the hunting outdoors when I was young shot a 30 cal carbine with a peep sight.Man killed lots of very nice bucks that us boys would push out of the clearcuts draws. We all had shotguns and he told us as long as those deer stayed in there they were ours. But when they went uphill they were his. He shot a 10 round clip and wasn’t shy about pulling the trigger. We drug a load of deer out those hills back in the 60’s/70’s .