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There's no changing the stigma around it being high fence because it will never be the same as hunting free-range deer. But I do tend to agree, if you fence in enough property, at some point those deer don't really know they're fenced in. There are multiple places in Texas that are good examples

If you were to simply fence off and trap in the native deer.....then really over time the only difference inside of the fence versus outside would be age structure and herd density.

^^^^^Exactly correct Harold.

I guess technically you would also have an easier time impacting generational nutrition as well and you could have the herd inside of the fence expressing more of their potential over time

Pretty sure I'm talking about everything, native and non native. If my property takes resources that are vital to the public, the public needs to buy it maintain it and own it. If I dam a creek on my property that's vital to others, others need to buy it or move. My property is my property. What's on my property is mine. If it's not the owner needs to get it off. This is the problem everyone thinks the government shouldn't pass laws to restrict their freedom, but everyone loves a law that restricts someone else's freedom, as long as it benefits them! Again I say, if there is anything on my property that belongs to someone else's, they need to get it off!

What if I damned up a creek on my land that flooded your entire property? It’s my land and I can do whatever I want, right? If you don’t want your land under 5 ft of water then buy my land and bust open the damn.

Happening all over Alabama on a much more regular basis than most people realize. In Alabama, if you're actively managing for mature bucks (4 yrs and older), a good rule of thumb is that you should be able to harvest 3-5 bucks per year off 1000 acres depending on the quality of your property and what your neighbors are doing. Basically 1 buck per 200-300 acres, once again depending on land quality and location. Bad neighbors, that 3-5 drops to 0-1 or 0-2. Great neighbors, large landowners all around, all on the same program, real good quality land, letting all bucks younger than 4 walk, you might be able to harvest 6-8/yr or even more, without hurting it, in an established program. So yes, a single 20 acre landowner with 3 sons, all of which can kill 3 bucks each (12 in total per year legally) and unlimited does can absolutely ruin any attempt at managing a 1000 acre property. Or, if it was already being well managed, the 20 acre landowner that moves in and starts shooting any buck they see, can ruin years of management efforts in just a few seasons. 12 bucks a year off the 20 acres will be well in excess of what the guy managing the 1000 acres will harvest/yr and none of the bucks killed on the 20 will grow up, live/stay on, or even spend 10% of their time on that 20 acres. But when they walk across that 20 acre piece, and they will walk across it many times a year and during the season, they'll get whacked. And Matt's right. Small property management, 1000 acres or less, has zero chance of success without the surrounding neighbors being on the same page and working together, or in a best case scenario for the deer manager, not hunting their properties at all.

Maybe all my neighbors will high-fence their properties... then mine will effectively be fenced for zero cost to me.

All of this talk for some bone that grows on top of a male pine goats head

Just a sign of one of Our greatest faults as Humans- GREED and SELFISHNESS/ SELF CENTEREDNESS