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Different things are happening at different places. Deer populations are not down everywhere, turkey populations arent either. And its probably different reasons populations are down in the different places where they are. Cnc is probably right about his area. But anything he would guess about some place he hasnt been is just that, a guess You are correct, Sir.
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Getting hunters to agree on anything is unlikely at best. Brothers that hunt together, lifelong friends that hunt together maybe but members in a club I doubt it.
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Different things are happening at different places. Deer populations are not down everywhere, turkey populations arent either. And its probably different reasons populations are down in the different places where they are. Cnc is probably right about his area. But anything he would guess about some place he hasnt been is just that, a guess I’ve toured 100’s of properties in 23 different counties not counting the ones I grew up hunting…..The principles of wildlife management are the same in every county…..the variables just change. If you go back and look, the principles was what this thread was about before it got derailed
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Getting hunters to agree on anything is unlikely at best. Brothers that hunt together, lifelong friends that hunt together maybe but members in a club I doubt it. Even brothers and friends will disagree about hunting.
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Different things are happening at different places. Deer populations are not down everywhere, turkey populations arent either. And its probably different reasons populations are down in the different places where they are. Cnc is probably right about his area. But anything he would guess about some place he hasnt been is just that, a guess I’ve toured 100’s of properties in 23 different counties not counting the ones I grew up hunting…..The principles of wildlife management are the same in every county…..the variables just change. If you go back and look, the principles was what this thread was about before it got derailed If the principles are the same in every county, then why did you have to ask the question in the first place?
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"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Different things are happening at different places. Deer populations are not down everywhere, turkey populations arent either. And its probably different reasons populations are down in the different places where they are. Cnc is probably right about his area. But anything he would guess about some place he hasnt been is just that, a guess I’ve toured 100’s of properties in 23 different counties not counting the ones I grew up hunting…..The principles of wildlife management are the same in every county…..the variables just change. If you go back and look, the principles was what this thread was about before it got derailed If the principles are the same in every county, then why did you have to ask the question in the first place? Was that a rhetorical question? If not, you haven't been a member long enough to know the answer. Stick around, you'll figure it out.  Maybe 2Dogs will give me one of those Foghorn Leghorn Meme's, cause I know he knows. LOL
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/BQpf3xVx/IMG-1862.jpg) This could cause some folks to blow their minds. 😂
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Looks like somebody had a good evening hunting and will eat well for a little while but i would be in mourning quite a while if i did that. Its kinda weird the difference in people though. I let somebody come kill one doe early in the season and i swear it just about made me sick. Me and my son both killed a 2yo buck in the same week about a month later, and we enjoyed it. I know that would have tore some of yall up the way that dead doe did me. Takes all kinds of folks to make a world. It might have something to do with the amount of work put into it. Ive worked hard to get a good number of does here, it didnt feel right killing one. Yall work hard to get that 2yo buck to 4yo so it hurts you to see one dead.
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Different things are happening at different places. Deer populations are not down everywhere, turkey populations arent either. And its probably different reasons populations are down in the different places where they are. Cnc is probably right about his area. But anything he would guess about some place he hasnt been is just that, a guess I’ve toured 100’s of properties in 23 different counties not counting the ones I grew up hunting…..The principles of wildlife management are the same in every county…..the variables just change. If you go back and look, the principles was what this thread was about before it got derailed If the principles are the same in every county, then why did you have to ask the question in the first place? Was that a rhetorical question? If not, you haven't been a member long enough to know the answer. Stick around, you'll figure it out. Maybe 2Dogs will give me one of those Foghorn Leghorn Meme's, cause I know he knows. LOL Foghorn approves. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/yxtyH9wQ/images.jpg)
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If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Different things are happening at different places. Deer populations are not down everywhere, turkey populations arent either. And its probably different reasons populations are down in the different places where they are. Cnc is probably right about his area. But anything he would guess about some place he hasnt been is just that, a guess I’ve toured 100’s of properties in 23 different counties not counting the ones I grew up hunting…..The principles of wildlife management are the same in every county…..the variables just change. If you go back and look, the principles was what this thread was about before it got derailed If the principles are the same in every county, then why did you have to ask the question in the first place? Was that a rhetorical question? If not, you haven't been a member long enough to know the answer. Stick around, you'll figure it out. Maybe 2Dogs will give me one of those Foghorn Leghorn Meme's, cause I know he knows. LOL It was very much a rhetorical question lol
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Looks like somebody had a good evening hunting and will eat well for a little while but i would be in mourning quite a while if i did that. Its kinda weird the difference in people though. I let somebody come kill one doe early in the season and i swear it just about made me sick. Me and my son both killed a 2yo buck in the same week about a month later, and we enjoyed it. I know that would have tore some of yall up the way that dead doe did me. Takes all kinds of folks to make a world. It might have something to do with the amount of work put into it. Ive worked hard to get a good number of does here, it didnt feel right killing one. Yall work hard to get that 2yo buck to 4yo so it hurts you to see one dead. I completely, 100% totally, understand what you're saying. It doesn't help matters that I haven't had a single trail camera photo of a fawn, or yearling, in two years. I'm gonna fix that though. Two coyote hunters, who participate in tournaments, are coming here, mid summer and we're going to kill all we can. Three thermals, three suppressors, one call, with written permission to hunt well over 1000 acres comprised of 20 or more landowners.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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It was very much a rhetorical question lol
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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This could cause some folks to blow their minds. 😂 That's what hillbillies call a doe rollin' !
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it’s not always about who is right or wrong… Regardless of his methods, CNC is just generating discussion over a topic that matters to each and every one of us and that’s a healthy deer population. The problem is we probably all have different ideas of what exactly that means. We are privileged to live in one of the most diverse states in the country. Per usual, we as hunters are our own worst enemy and we attack each other instead of staying open minded and being willing to listen. What’s good for one area may be horrible for others but we’ll never know if we don’t talk about it. I don’t have a dog in this hunt (<—— see what I did there?) With the exception of the biologists like mbrock and the big timber/Ag guys,,,,the trackers like CNC, Dano, IdahoMike, etc really do have a unique opportunity to see a much broader portion of our state than the average joe like myself will ever see. We could always have another thread on T-Swizzle, Ukraine, or where to eat in GS/OB  Great Post! I don't always agree with every post or topic but I always learn something.
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The land that I hunt is about 200 acres (family land) with a lake on the north end and smaller land owners on all sides (no hunting clubs in area). We don’t shoot does unless it’s archery and we seen more deer in the past 5 years than we have seen in the previous 20 years. Quality of bucks keeps going up also and we use corn & also planted different fruit trees in key areas (apples, persimmons, etc)
Most of my neighbors don’t hunt and I really don’t care what they do as long as they don’t put a stand or a feeder next to our property line (they are all pretty cool and we don’t tell them what to do, but they all know that we hunt & they don’t tell us what to do either).
Letting the does walk and keeping the predators in check (yotes & bobcats) seems to be the secret sauce to improving the quality of bucks.
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The land that I hunt is about 200 acres (family land) with a lake on the north end and smaller land owners on all sides (no hunting clubs in area). We don’t shoot does unless it’s archery and we seen more deer in the past 5 years than we have seen in the previous 20 years. Quality of bucks keeps going up also and we use corn & also planted different fruit trees in key areas (apples, persimmons, etc)
Most of my neighbors don’t hunt and I really don’t care what they do as long as they don’t put a stand or a feeder next to our property line (they are all pretty cool and we don’t tell them what to do, but they all know that we hunt & they don’t tell us what to do either).
Letting the does walk and keeping the predators in check (yotes & bobcats) seems to be the secret sauce to improving the quality of bucks.
What if they did put up a stand or feeder next to the property line? It's their property to do as they like.
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The take home message here that was the original point…..is that we are all part of neighborhood of properties that matters more than any of the individual squares……Just like shown in the picture above, in most situations there’s likely folks around you that are already blasting does. Its ok to keep your square quiet and your resident does unpressured.  ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/BA9j3OZ.jpeg)
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