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Re: Matt Brock - Deer Depredation Mbrock #4077754 02/05/24 01:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 10,586 Likes: 2 Scottsboro, Al J jbatey1 Lucky Bastage
jbatey1 Lucky Bastage J Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 10,586 Likes: 2 Scottsboro, Al	Originally Posted by Mbrock Originally Posted by jbatey1 Originally Posted by Mbrock In hunting season they have the option to allow hunters to kill deer legally. No need for a permit. Damage is occurring on young crops, and is when they need the most help. , but why not just say “ Well, based off of your damage reported last year, you need to make sure “X number of deer are harvested on your property this hunting season” and leave it as deer being killed during deer season? (When) the deer are being killed isn’t what’s saving the crop as much as it’s simply the deer being killed in general, right? Do most farmers look at 100 deer killed in June/July better than they would look at 100 deer killed in December/January? The deer are gone either way. They attract deer they normally don’t have during open season, as soon as beans start germinating. In some cases, even cotton. I’ve seen terrible damage to young cotton plants. If you can protect the beans and cotton the first few weeks the damage is typically minimized. They have a short window in which to do that, and killing deer in season doesn’t always lead to less pressure on crops in summer. Winter harvest does help in some cases. Ahh, that’s the part that I didn’t even think about. Of course I knew that it attracted deer that they “normally” don’t have, but it didn’t register to me. The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.

Re: Matt Brock - Deer Depredation RandanAL #4077768 02/05/24 01:22 PM
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AU338MAG Freak of Nature Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 24,233 Likes: 320 North AL	Originally Posted by RandanAL Originally Posted by Goatkiller This issue pales in comparison to an issue we now have with wild hogs. Nowhere even in the same ballpark. IF y'all want to get concerned about some farming you are barking up the wrong tree the hogs actually ARE the issue in 2024. Hogs WILL put you out of business. Could hogs be excluded by an electric fence? High fencing for deer would be tricky but I'd think an electric fence would work with pigs - not to mention they are year round open season. A 3 ft high wire fence will keep hogs out Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales Molon Labe

Re: Matt Brock - Deer Depredation jbatey1 #4077789 02/05/24 01:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,908 Likes: 2 B'ham Goatkiller 14 point
Goatkiller 14 point Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,908 Likes: 2 B'ham	If y'alls simple solution to feral pigs is just throw a 3ft fence around every crop field in Alabama.... you had better let the State and Federal Government know ASAP because they are spending serious money and time trying to find a solution. If deer put you our of business farming in 2023 they just helped to speed the process along. No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.

Re: Matt Brock - Deer Depredation Goatkiller #4078065 02/05/24 07:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 26,768 Likes: 174 colbert county cartervj Freak of Nature
cartervj Freak of Nature Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 26,768 Likes: 174 colbert county	Originally Posted by Goatkiller Y'all need to talk to some real farmers because y'all don't know what y'all are talking about. Deer have been an issue for decades... this is nothing new. Do you lose a little money.. YES. But if you have been farming for real and not typing on a keyboard you figured out how to deal with it 40 years ago. This has been a problem since the 70's. If you didn't figure out how to deal with it you are long gone and somewhere doing something else for a living. Do you loose a little money planting on 15" and upping the population to 160,000. We use to do double end rows to help offset a bit of the damage. Does that cost money.. Yea a little bit. I can remember a couple years where we had some of our best beans ever when the deer nipped them by the time they had their first trifoliate. Does someone somewhere have an issue? Probably. Most farmers are smart enough that if it is long-term to simply plant something else. Right? This issue pales in comparison to an issue we now have with wild hogs. Nowhere even in the same ballpark. IF y'all want to get concerned about some farming you are barking up the wrong tree the hogs actually ARE the issue in 2024. Hogs WILL put you out of business. 4 pages of a bunch of dribble right here. We’re not serious farmers, just piddling but deer still have cost us money. That land had been farmed for as long as anyone alive around there can recall. Deer been eating profits up on guys that’s been farming for eons. Deer recently have become more of problem because of the timber practices around helps support more and more deer. If the surrounding land had setup been hardwoods the deer population would be much lower. It’s not putting anyone out of business, not sure anyone has said that here. I know of farmland along the river where beans are eaten down even though it’s large fields but still viable enough to be farmed. Plant corn and the hogs will eat any profits up. I'm surprised anyone farms it. I know some guys that are getting their traps, dogs and guns ready because war has been declared on the hogs. “Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan

Re: Matt Brock - Deer Depredation jbatey1 #4078069 02/05/24 07:56 PM
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cartervj Freak of Nature Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 26,768 Likes: 174 colbert county	I talked to a neighboring landowner that was throwing a fit about deer studies being done 20 years ago and killing hundreds of does and the population hasn’t recovered yet. I just laughed. Another neighbor will tell you, we quit shooting does cause two more show up in its place. Said we’re recruiting deer by killing one. “Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan

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