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Most likely? Doubtful. I’ve been hunting a long time. Yes there has always been some who used corn but it wasn’t in any way close to the amount being thrown out today. Ban corn.

Just had a guy call me from Tuskegee wanting me to track a deer he shot in town in his uncles back yard over a corn pile......I declined. That's how more deer get killed. Waaay more of that happening in north alabama due to the habitat fragmentation and higher hunter density across much larger areas. If you're not able to comprehend it then I cant explain any better to you

It amazes me the love that some have for corn. I guess it’s the easy way and it’s just the norm now. There are more deer killed now due to the usage of corn. The season has always been long and the deer heard used to be fairly healthy. The biggest difference I see is we used to only get a week to kill a doe. Now you get all season to throw out your corn and kill as many as you want. Ban corn. Make hunters have to actually hunt. By doing this we will lose hunters which will help the deer herd. There’s too many hunters now anyway.

And I use the term hunters loosely. We have a lot of shooters who sit over a feeder

Corn has really increased the ability for small properties to influence harvest rates

I’ll just throw this out there, and it’s THE primary reason I no longer work for the DCNR. I fought it hard then and I’m going to continue to do so, but the additive mortality of the Feb extension in areas it’s not needed, with legalized baiting and technological advances in deer detection is an absolute disaster and will impact population dynamics for a long time.

No agenda. I’ve run clubs and held big leases since the early 90s in multiple counties. Washington, Covington, Choctaw, Marengo, Wilcox, Clarke, Dallas. Smallest was around 800 acres, most 2000-3000 acres. When you control big pieces of property, you touch a lot of smaller surrounding properties. All were low membership and high member/acreage ratios, so it was a fairly controlled group of guys. Rare was the year that we didn’t kill multiple deer, on our managed, non-baited property, that showed up at our skinning shed full of corn. I’ve helped game wardens make a bunch of baiting cases over the years. Call it in and report it, show the GW where you think it is occurring and then let them access across my property to bust the neighbors baiting their smaller inferior property just across the line, who mistakenly thought the GW would have to come in off the highway, or by their house, the same way they were coming in. Lot more of it going on than people would think. If you didn’t control a big piece that touched a bunch of other parcels, you’d never know. Happened enough that I lost all faith in people actually following any of the game laws in this state. I’m sure others have similar experiences.

Only difference now is that they can pour out a truckload and don’t have to hide while doing it and hunting over it. The tonnage of corn is definitely more because they no longer have to be discreet about it. They were doing it plenty back then too but it was 5-50lbs at a time, not 500

I’ll just throw this out there, and it’s THE primary reason I no longer work for the DCNR. I fought it hard then and I’m going to continue to do so, but the additive mortality of the Feb extension in areas it’s not needed, with legalized baiting and technological advances in deer detection is an absolute disaster and will impact population dynamics for a long time.

I’ll just throw this out there, and it’s THE primary reason I no longer work for the DCNR. I fought it hard then and I’m going to continue to do so, but the additive mortality of the Feb extension in areas it’s not needed, with legalized baiting and technological advances in deer detection is an absolute disaster and will impact population dynamics for a long time.

No agenda. I’ve run clubs and held big leases since the early 90s in multiple counties. Washington, Covington, Choctaw, Marengo, Wilcox, Clarke, Dallas. Smallest was around 800 acres, most 2000-3000 acres. When you control big pieces of property, you touch a lot of smaller surrounding properties. All were low membership and high member/acreage ratios, so it was a fairly controlled group of guys. Rare was the year that we didn’t kill multiple deer, on our managed, non-baited property, that showed up at our skinning shed full of corn. I’ve helped game wardens make a bunch of baiting cases over the years. Call it in and report it, show the GW where you think it is occurring and then let them access across my property to bust the neighbors baiting their smaller inferior property just across the line, who mistakenly thought the GW would have to come in off the highway, or by their house, the same way they were coming in. Lot more of it going on than people would think. If you didn’t control a big piece that touched a bunch of other parcels, you’d never know. Happened enough that I lost all faith in people actually following any of the game laws in this state. I’m sure others have similar experiences.

Ban greenfields too. And shooting houses. And scopes. And cover scents. Long Johns. Four wheelers. The new knives with the replacement blades that are so sharp. Oh and ban Sitka gear too.

People in other states have been hunting over bait for years. People in Alabama have been hunting over bait for years. Deer will be fine.

I hear what you’re saying but cuz……..”multiple deer” is a whole lot different than ALL deer……I know what is going on, I go out in the woods and see it everyday on property after property after property……Probably like 95% of places have corn piles and feeders everywhere now. Its not just a little bit anymore…..We’re on a whole different wavelength than we used to be……It isnt just those few guys who border up to some big hunting club these days……Its virtually EVERY HUNTER……and in WAYYYY more places where its being poured out and deer being killed……..