Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
One of the rules that always get's me is, "bucks horns outside of the ears only." DCNR regs say horns visible above the hairline. So does Hank that works at the mill and was elected the club president know more about deer management than a biologist for game and fish? And don't hand me that BS that ALFA insurance writes the DCNR regulations to benefit their claims division. That's horsechit.


Yes Hank knows more.



I can understand having limits on bucks taken. But not every buck that might need to be shot has horns outside the ears. Then Hank gonna fine you. Grown men should be able to use hunter discretion according to the DCNR regs and the club.


I don’t disagree with you totally. I was just saying that Hank knows more than the game and fish. The problem with grown men using discretion is that their decisions don’t always line up with the deer management goals of the club. Take the cull buck issue for example. Also there’s the guy that shoots the 3 year old and swears up and down he’s a 7 year old. Some grown men’s decision making skills go south real quick when a rack buck steps out. Then he starts rationalizing it and trying to figure out how to save the $250 fine.

And I don’t think there is a buck the “needs” to be shot except for 1. And that’s the old bully buck that runs off all the other mature bucks. But they aren’t always on every property. But there maybe plenty of bucks that meet age and antler requirements and “can” be shot.


I had a buck last year that I wanted to cull out and he was on our cull list. I am pretty sure he came back looking better this year. I can't be 100% sure he wasn't killed by someone else or didn't just die, but I haven't seen him this year and have 1 buck that looks like he could be him based on his antler structure.

But everyone says that, they see a buck with long spikes, or a long spike on one side, and one that has a slight fork on the other and they say he needs to go. The majority of breeding is done by younger bucks from what I have seen, so wouldn't having a better buck rack structure be better addressed by making sure you have healthy doe's?