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Really what you’d be asking is…..How far away is it from the southern most point of the November estrous area?......How far do the anomalies and outliers make it??......those handful of bucks that disperse way farther than the average…..
Its also possible for a buck to disperse “X” amount of miles as a yearling before he sets up his new future home range…… and then also have movement patterns as an adult that may go out miles from that point……I’m just saying that’s possible for a buck born from a Nov doe or “Bankhead” doe to get killed as an adult a long ways from there. It’s plausible for how the genetic aspect could be at play.
The rut timing can change within a few miles as you move south out of Winston County. From one small community to the next. Anybody that’s familiar with southern Winston county will be familiar with Black Pond and Poplar Springs. Rock throwing distance apart. First rut window can be two/three weeks apart. And 10 miles farther south in Walker County, add another week or two.
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And you go to extreme SE Walker county where Wolf Creek used to be and the breeding dates are late January to early February. Walker county literally has breeding from north to south starting in mid November and lasting through February.
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And my guess would be the closer you get to the November rut, the better the antler potential?
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I have a place in the late rut area earliest I’ve killed a mature deer is the 18th of January rest have came between the 23rd and 1st of February. First year they extended the season killed a 10 chasing a doe. Walker county has 4 distinct ruts due to all the restocking efforts. Idk anywhere else in the state that has that. That buck along with a lot of other good deer get killed in those old strip pits there’s just something about those old pits that grow big deer
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If you ever go into Pats archery walk over to the boots look to the far left there’s a 150 inch 8 that came out of Wolf Creek management area before it shut down. Deer is absolutely huge.
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And my guess would be the closer you get to the November rut, the better the antler potential? The assumption is that the Michigan genetics have better potential…..I don’t know if that’s true or not but if we assume it is then you would be talking about the bucks born from those doe lines around Bankhead……Thing is though, they disperse as yearlings and can end up well outside of that range. My guess is that some of these bucks disperse into isolated pockets of habitat where they get plenty of good food. It wouldn’t necessarily have to be large scale farming for one individual to find a good spot
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Thought this was about a goat
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Walker County is the new Jackson County. Most folks would be surprised to know that - there were NO deer in half of Walker County 40 years ago. I’m not saying a few, I mean ZERO. I grew up in one of those places. We would see a deer track in the garden, eventually - and you ran home to tell everybody. Then, in my teens - we killed a couple “around the house”. Things fortunately changed fast. But there was a time that most every hunter in the area traveled south and west to find huntable populations. This sounds exactly like our area in North AL. Even 20 years ago there was very few deer. Now there’s deer everywhere. Robinhedd My grandparents bought 60 acres in 1952. Saw the first deer in 99. We hunt some there now. Like they have said there were NONE! 🤣
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When the deer walked into the field, he only saw one side of the deer. He didn’t know about the other side until he went over and picked the deers head up. It was a hoss for sure.
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And you go to extreme SE Walker county where Wolf Creek used to be . . . Mbrock -- I don't know much about WMAs and am still working up the courage to hunt the one very close to where I live, but what happened to Wolf Creek? Why does a state close down or sell off a WMA?
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I have a place in the late rut area earliest I’ve killed a mature deer is the 18th of January rest have came between the 23rd and 1st of February. First year they extended the season killed a 10 chasing a doe. Walker county has 4 distinct ruts due to all the restocking efforts. Idk anywhere else in the state that has that. That buck along with a lot of other good deer get killed in those old strip pits there’s just something about those old pits that grow big deer I was told all the minerals from deep underground got pulled to the surface during the mining and now produce giant bucks. Sounds feasible.
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The guy that killed it is a great guy . Never seen it or had it on camera is what i was told . Like it was at one time. Just hunt sign and trails and see what happens. My buddy and me were talking about this weekend. Cell cameras and corn IN MY OPINION have ruined deer hunting . That is a damn heck of a deer
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The blue route is 35 miles. The red dot inside the red circle is approximately where my hood friend’s uncle killed a deer with a metal tag in its ear, it came from Bankhead. I think it was in the 70’s or early 80’s. It was a big deer and he had it mounted with the tag in its ear. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/NjktSbZ8/IMG-8936.jpg)
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