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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
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What is Chauvin really guilty of?


He was the in charge person, and I think he should have been more responsive to the issues Floyd was having. Not that it would have likely mattered in this case because he was OD'd, but there was just no basic regard for human life. If someone is telling you they can't breathe, err on the side of caution. Dude was trying to pass a phony bill. Not rob a bank.

I don't know that I think jail is the proper place for him, terminating him and taking away his ability to be an LEO would have probably also worked.

I also think this sort of thing has gone on for years, and the only reason we see it so much is because camera's are everywhere.



Did you even watch the video? He said he couldnt breathe for several minutes before he ever went to the ground. He also said he couldnt choke. He was breathing the whole time. Everything he said was a lie. He faught them every step of the way with his friends telling him to stop fighting them. Where was it you saw disregard for life? I missed that. They all did exactly what they were trained to do the way they were trained to do it. I dont even like the police, ive never had a good experience with them. But the police got screwed here.

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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
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That cop is exactly where he needs to be.
And yes I realize Floyd was a POS and died of drugs.

You say you realize Floyd died of drugs. How can the cop be guilty of murder then?



I want to see the entire video. It doesn't show anything. For 2hrs, that video didn't show what happened. Til I see the video of what happened, I have to trust the courts.

Its a 2hr video that shows absolutely nothing to what actually happened on the scene. Why doesn't it show what happened? There's body camera's on each officer? They only played the cops arriving and trying to get the idiot into the car. Then it stops.

Y are apparently watching something different. What i watched showed everything that happened all the way from floyd breaking the law to him laying on the ground, after he jumped out on the ground by the way, they didnt put him there, th them restraining him there while he was still fighting them.

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He was saying he couldn't breathe when he was standing up and if I'm not mistaken he was saying it when they pulled him out of his SUV. The court was a kangaroo court convicted by the media.

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
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That cop is exactly where he needs to be.
And yes I realize Floyd was a POS and died of drugs.

You say you realize Floyd died of drugs. How can the cop be guilty of murder then?



I want to see the entire video. It doesn't show anything. For 2hrs, that video didn't show what happened. Til I see the video of what happened, I have to trust the courts.

Its a 2hr video that shows absolutely nothing to what actually happened on the scene. Why doesn't it show what happened? There's body camera's on each officer? They only played the cops arriving and trying to get the idiot into the car. Then it stops.

Y are apparently watching something different. What i watched showed everything that happened all the way from floyd breaking the law to him laying on the ground, after he jumped out on the ground by the way, they didnt put him there, th them restraining him there while he was still fighting them.



Yeah but it didn't show what unfolded for the cops to sit on him, that's the entire point..it's like a documentary that shows everything except the entire video. I will agree that chauvin shouldn't be in jail for murder. I admit that. When I was replying earlier I got in a hurry and didn't have time to respond correctly... which is half of my responses to aldeer 😅.

But to have a documentary, it should show everything that happened. It didn't. It only showed the very beginning. I want to see the entire video to make a final decision. In the documentary it showed a witness on the stand. She was an off duty fireman and apparently she saw something that was wrong to make her start recording it and even call 911 for help. The ambulance didn't get there for at least 18 minutes that I know of. She was the one who called for help when she realized nobody was coming to help this guy. That's why I wanted to see the video. Paramedics arrived at the wrong scene. Their station was 2 blocks away. The cops did call for medical early on and the video showed that.

Again, It's a red flag to me that this documentary didn't show the important part of the video. That's my point. The documentary is a complete waste of time. It's designed to show Floyd's guilt but it didn't show how the cops wound up on his back. Even on tv we have only seen fragments of video.

Maybe chauvin is totally innocent but I don't see why he kept on top of the dudes back because they won't show the whole video! Why not show the entire situation?

I can't believe Floyd's family won 27 million. I can't believe the cops are in jail and one for murder. If they would show the entire thing, it would clear everything up. If the government would have been honest, it would have been a lot better for everyone, I admit that. The whole thing is a senseless mess.

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Snake you must be living in a fantasy world. Have you ever seen anyone that can’t breathe? That was not George “the junky”Floyd. If someone can’t breathe they don’t speak and they don’t fight. Besides Chauvin’s knee was never on Floyd’s neck. It’s called manipulation of camera angle. manipulation of camera angle. The news only wanted you to see what fit the narrative. Your witness on the stand was grandstanding the moment, she did like so many other looking for fame, grabbed that camera and started recording when she should have been dialing 911. Not only that the police officers actually did call for an ambulance 36 seconds after Ol drug head said he couldn’t breathe. He didn’t say I’m having trouble breathing. He said I Can’t Breathe. He was breathing fine to be able to speak and had enough O2 in his system to fight. That whole shucks storm was nothing but a lie and a sham. You really need to rewatch the video. I know I’d never want you in a jury.

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Jake, he was a big guy, bigger than any of those cops. He had a really long record, some of it violent crimes involving weapons. He was agitated and clearly high as he☆☆. He was hiding drugs. He was lying every time he spoke. He was consantly struggling, trying to do the opposite of what he was told. He ended up on the ground fighting the cops trying to get him to sit in the back of the cop car. Now lets talk about the cops, yeah they cussed. But they were about as polite as you could expect in that situation. They didnt beat him, which they likely could have got away with because he resisted from the get go. They certsinly didnt know why he kept moving around, what he might do next, if he had a gun he was reaching for. They wrestled him away from his car, where a weapon might have been. They called a ambulance because he said he couldnt breathe, even though he was breathing just fine. By the time he got on the ground, they were just trying their best to get him to be still, and he never did untill he died. He killed himself. If he had just done what they said and quit fighting them, he would likely be alive today. Maybe in prison again for the crime he had just committed, but alive nonetheless. It was his actions that killed him. The cops were just doing the best they could to subdue a beligerant criminal who was high and much bigger than them.

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He couldn’t breathe a year earlier while he was being arrested back then too. Ask any cop what’s the most used words when under arrest. I guarantee “I can’t breathe” is at the top now and probably wa pretty close to the top right after “I didn’t do nuthin”


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I'm not a cop, but they drew on him pretty quick. I'd be agitated and upset if anyone tapped on my car window and surprised me holding a gun. The other officer who Floyd claimed "shot" him didn't draw on him at all. Speaking from experience, (not proud to admit) handcuffs are not designed for comfort. The more you move in them, the more painful it gets. Imagine 4 grown men man handling you while you're in handcuffs and you have breathing issues. It's not an ideal situation. Can we have a LEO define "resisting" for us? Floyd was clearly resisting in my opinion, but he was doped up and high. Who makes good decisions like that? Floyd had drugs in his system, but he's a big dude and the maybe "OD" pertains to a normal, healthy person. Floyd had mental and substance abuse issues. Is that criminal?

I have respect for law enforcement. It's the job and career they chose and a difficult one at that. I couldn't do that job for 25-30 years. It was interesting to see all of the retired officers being interviewed for this documentary. They all retired with 28 years and right after this situation happened.

Who made the decision to abandon the 3rd Precinct building? That was ground zero, home, and a safe place for those officers. I would have set up a permitter and stood my ground and fought back. That's where the political correctness and "woke" started in this situation. I don't think the politicians or the appointed people in charge were very forward thinking.

I watched this documentary and it reassured my natural intuitions. Don't put yourself in situations where the cops will be called. Don't drink and drive. Don't do excessive amounts of drugs in public places. Go to the doctor when you're not feeling well. Don't trust all of the government including politicians, cops, and judges. Even medical examiners can be manipulated. The media is and always will be skewed. Try to be a nice person and respect others. Turn off your television and social medias.

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Tell me why there are over 1,096,400 and something views. With only 40k thumbs up. There’s got to be some idiots for the same Ol shits out there voting at least four time the document Rey showes just how dirty they are.

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Watch what is happening here in Decatur.

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Originally Posted by DryFire
Watch what is happening here in Decatur.

Yup.

Someone about to get paid $$$$$$$ by Decatur.


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Originally Posted by DryFire
Watch what is happening here in Decatur.
ask anybody and they will tell you that the tow truck was at the wrong house because that's what the news is pushing. but was it really the wrong house? because that makes a huge difference if he's threatening folks with a gun. the other story being pushed is that he didn't have a gun. we will see. here's an article that is more national but from the families lawyers own words it doesn't sound like the tow truck driver picked the wrong house. if so why is all the local news not reporting this? they kept saying the tow truck driver had the wrong house. Why did the repossession company keep the truck 7 weeks?

yahoo tow truck

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