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Joined: Dec 2002
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Definitively prove, without any doubt and not anecdotally, that decoys negatively impact the resource.
Use data from before and after approval here and/or other states.
They work sometimes and other times they don't.
I'd bet there is no data, other than estimated harvest totals, that would or could prove it for our state. Maybe for any state, even with tags and check-in.
Decoys are more of a pain in the ass than a definitively negative impact on turkey populations. Just putting a decoy in a field or road doesn't automatically guarantee that every bird is going to come on a rope to ie. Some will, some won't.
Banning them won't make a difference in the overall population. It would only make some hunters feel good about getting them banned, and then they'd move on to the next thing they hate to get that banned.
If any data definitely, and not "aw, you know it does" proves it's a detriment, fine. Have the discussion. Let's see the data and proof. Otherwise it's just coffee talk. Or worse, the "well, we might as well do something to see if it helps!"
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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14 point
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My preferred way to kill em is using decoys, with a crossbow, at night from the truck window.
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Booner
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Definitively prove, without any doubt and not anecdotally, that decoys negatively impact the resource.
Use data from before and after approval here and/or other states.
They work sometimes and other times they don't.
I'd bet there is no data, other than estimated harvest totals, that would or could prove it for our state. Maybe for any state, even with tags and check-in.
Decoys are more of a pain in the ass than a definitively negative impact on turkey populations. Just putting a decoy in a field or road doesn't automatically guarantee that every bird is going to come on a rope to ie. Some will, some won't.
Banning them won't make a difference in the overall population. It would only make some hunters feel good about getting them banned, and then they'd move on to the next thing they hate to get that banned.
If any data definitely, and not "aw, you know it does" proves it's a detriment, fine. Have the discussion. Let's see the data and proof. Otherwise it's just coffee talk. Or worse, the "well, we might as well do something to see if it helps!"
Yep It always amazes me at some individuals wanting everyone to fit into their mold The thing is either you hunt with decoys or you don’t….it’s as simple as that I don’t always but there are times that I do I’ve called in more without them and more often have them to leave when I have decoys but then I’ve killed some very tuff to call in birds with them
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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Booner
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Limb launching at daylight is the best
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Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Might as well just go ahead and legalize baiting for turkeys according to some people's line of thinking.......
Folks that know don't shoot old does........ 
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SOA Professional
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Let’s just start stepping on eggs every time we find a nest. Shoot hens too
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Let’s just start stepping on eggs every time we find a nest. Shoot hens too The hens taste better than gobblas.
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Spot on. Also turkey limit should be dropped to one bird. Wait….WHAT!?!?!?! One bird? Why even hunt at all
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Spot on. Also turkey limit should be dropped to one bird. Wait….WHAT!?!?!?! One bird? Why even hunt at all It makes sense. Helps the turkey population recover and is incentive for the serious turkey hunters to be selective and appreciate one good bird.
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Y’all go to one bird, I’ll keep knocking down the 5 bird limits from the golden days
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I wonder how many have noticed that all the big bags of bird seed disappears a month before season comes in
Turkey eggs fry up really well and cover the whole piece of Texas toast
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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Definitively prove, without any doubt and not anecdotally, that decoys negatively impact the resource.
I'd bet there is no data, other than estimated harvest totals, that would or could prove it for our state. Maybe for any state, even with tags and check-in.
If any data definitely, and not "aw, you know it does" proves it's a detriment, fine. Have the discussion. Let's see the data and proof. Otherwise it's just coffee talk. Or worse, the "well, we might as well do something to see if it helps!"
I have heard that there is some data indicating that birds shot over decoys have higher fertility rates than other harvested gobblers. Havent seen the paper yet.
Just hunt and fish and leave everyone else alone.
I like to hunt them year around, over bait, hens or gobblers (poults in summer) as many as I want. Should I just be left alone? Spot on. Also turkey limit should be dropped to one bird. Wait….WHAT!?!?!?! One bird? Why even hunt at all It makes sense. Helps the turkey population recover and is incentive for the serious turkey hunters to be selective and appreciate one good bird. It actually makes no sense and does NOTHING to help the population. I am selective on each one I shoot and definitely appreciate each and every one.
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Talking Turkey
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Damn, what pronouns do yall use?
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Damn, what pronouns do yall use? Turkey/killa
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Old Mossy Horns
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What Hevishot said x2
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Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Dang, Gobbler - blind side shiv for the win, they never had a chance…… 
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Booner
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Y’all go to one bird, I’ll keep knocking down the 5 bird limits from the golden days My wife actually gave me her limit last year after I filled mine. Never woulda dreamed in a million years she’d done that…
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Booner
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Until 2005 it was considered unethical by the state and most turkey hunters. The way people hunting over corn for deer we’re cheating until the state found a way to make money there.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Until 2005 it was considered unethical by the state and most turkey hunters. The way people hunting over corn for deer were cheating until the state found a way to make money there. Yep
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Until 2005 it was considered unethical by the state and most turkey hunters. The way people hunting over corn for deer we’re cheating until the state found a way to make money there. And since ‘05 it’s been legal and up to the hunters discretion whether or not to use a decoy and that’s just the same as baiting You don’t have to do if you don’t want to When they make these things illegal I’ll stop using them…simple as that
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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