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Freak of Nature
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I think we're confusing trespassing and hunting without permission now. Bham Paw-paw gonna have to straighten y'all out.  Iām assuming but I thought I understood purple paint to be trespass law and posted property is for hunting
āSocialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.ā ā Ronald Reagan
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We hunted a duck hole we called the trucking company. It was in N Courtland and the landowner would not write permission but allowed hunting. Fortunately back then not many duck hunted.
As far as Arkansas back then. We knew and talked to landowners and all told us we could sneak fields that didnāt have purple markings. Barrels usually and or painted trees when around. We knew folks in Fair Oaks and Brinkley so we burnt a lot of gas back then keeping the roads hot.
āSocialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.ā ā Ronald Reagan
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Personally I couldnāt imagine going on someone elseās land and declaring I have a legal right to hunt there. Public land sure, private land I lease absolutely. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Itās still in the spirit of hotfooting in my opinion.
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I also confirmed with the Dist. III supervising game warden that I didn't need written permission to hunt the lands of a company who gave me verbal permission to hunt but wouldn't issue a written permit. That fell under the "guest" exclusion of the law requiring written permission to hunt the land of another.
I've been hunting a lot of years guys. Just because I haven't been on the aldeer forum don't mean I don't know what's been going on. I can see that most of you have a lot to learn.
Reminds me of this ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/W3gZ5sdm/IMG-9796.jpg)
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Rule 220-2-.85
(2) āOpen Permit-Public Landā is defined as governmentally owned land open for public hunting and/or lands made available to the public on an individual basis whether for a fee or not. Examples of such lands would be national forest lands, lands owned by lumber companies and utility companies available for use by hunters either through free permits, fee permits or no permit requirement.
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I like florescent blue , BTW. Me, too. I use the ACE Hardware brand of parking lot marking paint in handicap blue. It lasts a looong time, especially if you blaze the trees prior to painting.
I ain't fightin nobody that swings around in trees with a running chainsaw like Tarzan. - FurFlyin
Oh I just thought u were a dumba$$ 𤣠my apologies⦠- jb20
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Believe whatever you want to. I've shared what I know to be the truth and you can take it or leave it. Don't matter to me. Carry on.
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Believe whatever you want to. I've shared what I know to be the truth and you can take it or leave it. Don't matter to me. Carry on. Relax Eddie, no oneās saying youāre wrong. Just poking fun
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To the best of my knowledge vacant land that is painted purple in complete adherence to that statute can no longer be considered āopen fieldsā [doctrine] so a game warden cannot enter without a warrant, land owners permission, or reasonable suspicion that a game law is being broken. Maybe some of our law enforcement officers can speak to this.
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To the best of my knowledge vacant land that is painted purple in complete adherence to that statute can no longer be considered āopen fieldsā [doctrine] so a game warden cannot enter without a warrant, land owners permission, or reasonable suspicion that a game law is being broken. Maybe some of our law enforcement officers can speak to this. Wrong. Any land falls under the open field doctrine. You may be thinking about the case in TN, but that was a TN case and has not made it through the appeals courts to make it applicable to Alabama yet, if it does at all. I guess I should point out that I certainly don't follow this type news like I used to, so things may be different now, but I'm confident that I would have heard it if it were.
Last edited by jawbone; 11/15/23 10:02 PM.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Jawbone I think you would have a pretty dang hard time proving that all land falls under that doctrine. There have also been cases adjudicated that do place limits on the governments usage of that law other than the new case in Tennessee.
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Jawbone I think you would have a pretty dang hard time proving that all land falls under that doctrine. There have also been cases adjudicated that do place limits on the governments usage of that law other than the new case in Tennessee. Well tell me because the only land that doesn't fall under the Open Field Doctrine is land that is within the curtilage of a building. Purple paint, No Trespassing signs or even signs saying Game Wardens keep out can't keep them from legally coming onto your property in performance of their duties.
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Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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I like florescent blue , BTW. Me, too. I use the ACE Hardware brand of parking lot marking paint in handicap blue. It lasts a looong time, especially if you blaze the trees prior to painting. our timber company uses blue for trees to cut, If there wasn't any purple on the trees, I'd just assume it was timber company markings.
How you do anything is how you do everything
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Dear Piddlers:
If you don't own the property or have permission to be there..... you are trespassing. Period. If it's my piece of property you and I can talk about any loopholes in the law with the Sheriff's Deputy and if necessary the local Judge.
If you are a habitual line stepper I will go to the court and file something, whatever it takes.
Stop trying to hide behind a poorly written law. You know exactly what you are doing.
STOP TRESPASSING
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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I also confirmed with the Dist. III supervising game warden that I didn't need written permission to hunt the lands of a company who gave me verbal permission to hunt but wouldn't issue a written permit. That fell under the "guest" exclusion of the law requiring written permission to hunt the land of another.
I've been hunting a lot of years guys. Just because I haven't been on the aldeer forum don't mean I don't know what's been going on. I can see that most of you have a lot to learn.
That's interesting. I was told just the opposite by a GW. Our plant is adjacent to the local airport. The airport was having trouble with deer on the runways. I went to the lady who then managed the airport and asked for permission to hunt it (bow only, inside the city limits). She was tickled for me to hunt it. However, when I told her I needed a written permit, she refused. That afternoon, I ran into the local warden in town and ran the situation by him. He plainly told me if he caught me hunting there, I would be cited.
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The law you're calling "poorly written" is the law that defines trespassing as a crime. It allows your friends to enter your property without becoming criminals. Your version would make anybody besides the owner a criminal if they were to enter your property for any reason.
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Turkey, you need to talk to the district supervisor, or better still, call Chief Weathers in Mtgy with your question.
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The law you're calling "poorly written" is the law that defines trespassing as a crime. It allows your friends to enter your property without becoming criminals. Your version would make anybody besides the owner a criminal if they were to enter your property for any reason. If itās known that the intent of the law is to keep your friends from being trespassers then why is it being used to access other peopleās property to hunt?
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Seen a wood line painted purple on winnitasca road recently. Never seen that color before
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