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Freak of Nature
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Yes, we are spending our children's money supplying Ukraine with weaponry, but in doing so we are making sure that Russia won't be war our kids will be fighting anytime soon. I'd much rather Russia not ever think they should goad the US into a war. I can't even convey just how little I give a shat about Russia or the damage they might do. I'm much more concerned with the danger my own government poses to me and my family. I guess it takes both types of us to look after our kid's futures.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Not fascinating to me when billions of our tax dollars are thrown away. I don't mind helping allies fight our enemies for us. I get pissed at all the money we send to Central and South American countries for them to send their unwanteds to us. Or, the money to Iran and the other countries that hate us and want to see our demise. That list could go on but you get the picture. We still give Chine foreign aid, which blows my mind. Fast Facts. U.S. agencies sometimes provide funding to recipients in foreign countries to advance U.S. interests. From 2017-2021, the U.S. provided at least $48 million to research institutions, companies, and other recipients located in China.
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If you support ucrane in this war then in my eyes your a biben supporter.. KMA A lot of the RINOS support sending money to Ukraine. I've been to a couple of Tubervilles speeches since this started and he is adamant in his support for Ukraine. Really had to bite my tongue when he started pimping that chit. Don't. He needs to hear it. If I wasn't there as a representative of my company I would have stood up and said something.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." Mark Twain
"When I say ever thing I mean ever thing." - Frankie
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https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1720400893886005504Avdiiv direction, Donetsk region, 4 minutes of hell, which the occupiers were given by infantrymen, anti-tank gunners and artillerymen of the 2nd Mechanized Battalion of the Presidential Brigade in cooperation with 55 OABr and 110 OMBr artillery
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what tucker didn't tell you ,because he's on the russian payroll through his ties in Hungary is, they only banned the russian catholic church which is composed of russian FSB agents.
How you do anything is how you do everything
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"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." Mark Twain When I heard of my death I knew it was a lie David Crockett
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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what tucker didn't tell you ,because he's on the russian payroll through his ties in Hungary is, they only banned the russian catholic church which is composed of russian FSB agents. Ok.
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you don't have to believe me. You can check to see if all his views are inline with the kremlin, or fact check any of the experts who have been on his show regarding russia and see how accurate they are or research who his daddy works for or who bought out the Heritage Foundation and who that entity is beholden too. You could research the modern day russian catholic church and see if there views are even christian or who they're composed of. Or just blindly believe anything he says cause its Tucker and he'd never sell out. Its pretty easy to independently verify this one.
How you do anything is how you do everything
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you don't have to believe me. You can check to see if all his views are inline with the kremlin, or fact check any of the experts who have been on his show regarding russia and see how accurate they are or research who his daddy works for or who bought out the Heritage Foundation and who that entity is beholden too. You could research the modern day russian catholic church and see if there views are even christian or who they're composed of. Or just blindly believe anything he says cause its Tucker and he'd never sell out. Its pretty easy to independently verify this one. Is that you Joe?
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you don't have to believe me. Ok
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Not fascinating to me when billions of our tax dollars are thrown away. And young men on both sides are in a meat grinder because we couldn't keep our word concerning NATO expansion. Also, as previously noted, this is a huge profit maker for the deep state. Enough $$$ are involved that they are willing to risk nuclear war. There are no good guys anymore (in various players around the world).
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Not fascinating to me when billions of our tax dollars are thrown away. And young men on both sides are in a meat grinder because we couldn't keep our word concerning NATO expansion. Also, as previously noted, this is a huge profit maker for the deep state. Enough $$$ are involved that they are willing to risk nuclear war. There are no good guys anymore (in various players around the world). Plus the innocent civilians that have died and continue to die because Russia invaded a peaceful boarder nation. The blood of the Ukrainians is on the hands of Barrack Husain Obama and Joe Biden. Plus the other neocons that call themselves Senators and congressmen. Piss on Russia and anybody that drinks their koolaid. I spent ten years as a solider training to fight those communist scums.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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Many may disagree about us spending our children's dollars to help fight Russia, but I look at it as an investment. Every little bit of Russia that is beaten back by Ukraine weakens them and makes it less likely that my children will have to face them in WWIII in their lifetime.
I support giving aid to Ukraine, with accountability (can't stress that enough) for philosophical reasons. Capitalism vs. Communism. I support giving aid to Israel for Religious reasons. A nation that helps God's Chosen people will be favored by Him.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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I support giving aid to Israel for Religious reasons. A nation that helps God's Chosen people will be favored by Him. So just to be clear, you disagree with Paul in Romans 9? "For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring." Just because they are of the bloodline of Abraham, they are not God's chosen people. True Israel is those of the house of faith. We can support an ally just because they are an ally. We don't have to make them something they are not.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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What if Putin is dead:
What are the odds that the next person that takes over Russia is more level headed than Putin? It is 50/50 at best. The next guy may start by nuking Ukraine to demonstrate their resolve.
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Ukrainian civilians with shoulder fired weapons have pretty much stopped Russia's invasion.
Is that why Europe is not concerned? Valid question from anyone. Maybe Russia's army isn't that scary after all. Maybe they (Europe) really aren't that worried about Putin and are ok with him taking over Ukraine and re-installing a Pro-Russian Government. The truth of the matter is... its has been that way for most of my lifetime.
My suggestion would be - let's pull the funding and find out exactly how the Europeans really feel about this. Why not?
If they don't care why should we... the American Tax Payers? Who is going to pay us back?
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I support giving aid to Israel for Religious reasons. A nation that helps God's Chosen people will be favored by Him. So just to be clear, you disagree with Paul in Romans 9? "For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring." Just because they are of the bloodline of Abraham, they are not God's chosen people. True Israel is those of the house of faith. We can support an ally just because they are an ally. We don't have to make them something they are not. I'm not sure what you're talking about so I'm not questioning you, I just don't understand. I'm talking about the Jewish people being God's chosen people. Do you disagree with that? This is exactly why I don't overthink being a Christian. Too many people think themselves right into something not Christian like and I don't want to be one of them.
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Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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