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Why would property size matter? If a licensed hunter is allowed 3 bucks, and takes them legally, I can’t see how it matters if they come off 2 acres or 2,000. That’s because you’re not the one that owns the 2,000 acres and have a neighbor with 2 acres and a booger light/corn pile. I guarantee if any of you had invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in your property, you would feel the same way. That goes for property line hunters, too. I bought a little under 300 acres 4 years ago with money that I scrimped and saved my whole life for. Wasn't family land I inherited or anything. I don't feel that way. If you're legal, you're legal. There's a guy that owns about 10 acres on one of my borders. I'm sure he kills some deer that come over to his property off of mine. I don't care. I don't own the deer on my property...no one does.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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when I was stationed in Greene Co I hunted some Banks land that touched Hwy 14 between Eutaw and the river bridge. Upper part was a north/south 80 parcel. I got a friend to let me off at the hwy and I stalk hunted my way south maybe 75 yards east of the west line. As I crossed an open oak flat I heard something, stopped, then started walking again. Guy yelled at me, I stopped and saw him up a tree stand on the property line/painted tree, facing my way. I walked closer and caught him yelling something about poaching. Poaching??? WTH, I told him I was on Banks property. He said Banks didn't own any property near there. Dumbass. I told him I was with the owner when we painted the lines on that damn tree he was in. He cussed my again and I told him to climb down and we'd settle it. He refused, so I walked off a few yards and sat at the base of a tree....for a couple of hours. LOL His club, behind him, was thick and our side was pretty open hardwoods. He was hunting our side.
A week or so later loggers from same property he was supposed to be on cut some of the Banks property so the line got surveyed. Turn out the tree he was in was 30 yards on Banks property. I went with the landowner to inform them of the survey results. Asshole from the tree stand was there but wouldn't make eye contact with me.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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I don't much care until they shot across my land . I knew when they done the baiting thing people with small place would start putting up feeders
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Why would property size matter? If a licensed hunter is allowed 3 bucks, and takes them legally, I can’t see how it matters if they come off 2 acres or 2,000. That’s because you’re not the one that owns the 2,000 acres and have a neighbor with 2 acres and a booger light/corn pile. I guarantee if any of you had invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in your property, you would feel the same way. That goes for property line hunters, too. I bought a little under 300 acres 4 years ago with money that I scrimped and saved my whole life for. Wasn't family land I inherited or anything. I don't feel that way. If you're legal, you're legal. There's a guy that owns about 10 acres on one of my borders. I'm sure he kills some deer that come over to his property off of mine. I don't care. I don't own the deer on my property...no one does. Well stated. As long as they are hunting legal what does it matter? Seems a lot of greedy folks here that worry way to much about what others are doing.
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2,000 acres doesn’t buy you any more ownership of the deer than a guy with 5 acres has. It buys you about 400 more spots to choose from to hunt than the guy with 5 acres.
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I’m not arguing over who “owns”’the deer.
What I’m against is some jackass putting a stand on the property line, even if it’s facing his side.
Or trying to hunt on a couple acres, because they are gonna be shooting towards the adjacent property 99%of the time.
I ain't fightin nobody that swings around in trees with a running chainsaw like Tarzan. - FurFlyin
Oh I just thought u were a dumba$$ 🤣 my apologies… - jb20
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Dances With Weeds
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Is 20 acres enough??.....How about 40??
"My hypocrisy knows no bounds".......Doc Holliday
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I put stands where deer are moving, feeding, etc. If that is on a property line, thats where i put it.
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The reality is 95% of people hunting lines are going to shoot a 140" buck walking on the neighbors side. You are hunting your own property, until suddenly you are not when that buck shows up across the line or you have to blood trail him on someone else's land because he ran left instead of right. I'd rather avoid having to deal with that kind of dilemma and hunt where anything I can see is fair game.
The general exception to this is a stand on the line that is obviously facing a clear cut or green field on their own property. Sometimes there is nowhere else to put the stand and I'd rather have the neighbor shooting away from me than at me. More often than not though, the line hunters are folks whose timber company lease is overgrown with thick pines and they want to see down into the private land neighbors hardwoods. This post sums it up very well, and your exception is something that bothers very few. That isn't the problem. And the thing is that 95% of those who put a stand on the line looking at someone else's property isn't just looking for a 140; they are gonna shoot anything they can. No legit hunter wants to hunt right on the line where there's a high probability of being messed up by a neighbor engaged in any sort of random activity. A legit hunter wants to get as far away from the chance of that happening as possible. You can go most anywhere in the state and find stands on the line facing the other property. They aren't just "hunting every inch of my property." The purpose of putting the stand on the line is to shoot deer on the other property. And there's little chance of them being caught because they don't actually get on the other property until they go retrieve the deer, and even then they will claim they shot it on their side and the deer just ran across the line. So it's a criminal act, but it's really hard to catch the offender, and be sure that they know it. Why deny it or defend it? You have chosen to be a criminal. Anyone who will poach a deer off a neighbor's property will commit any other crime. Just own it and be proud. Get a Boyd Crowder shirt, button it to the top, and tell them catch me if you can. 
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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This is extremely situational. Every situation is very different. However, most let emotions get involved and can’t have clarity of thought when dealing with it.
I’ve hunted the line many, many times. A road or firelane on my side of the line, fair game. A clearcut on my property- get in a line tree, hunt the clearcut, fair game. Bow hunting thinned pines close to a line, even catching deer coming from thicker stuff on the neighbor, fair game.
And of course, there’s situations where hunters have bad intentions. Take the clearcut example. If the difference from one property to the next is a fresh CC, and a five year old pine plantation. Well, I’ll gladly hunt the line when my side is fresh CC, and no issues at all when the role is reversed. Cause I’m not gonna climb on the line and pretend I’m hunting a five year old pine plantation when the neighbor has the fresh CC.
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My issue with small house lots is the harvest Limits.
You think 3 bucks live on 2 acres? It’s not sustainable and it’s happening all across Alabama. People should be able to hunt their property absolutely, but with the same limits? Not in my opinion.
Whataloadofchit
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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People with more money and more land should definitely have more rights than the poors.
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People with more money and more land should definitely have more rights than the poors. Better add the obligatory smiley face to your post or the thin skins are gonna cry.
I ain't fightin nobody that swings around in trees with a running chainsaw like Tarzan. - FurFlyin
Oh I just thought u were a dumba$$ 🤣 my apologies… - jb20
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Nothing I love better than hunting a fence line....
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I’m not arguing over who “owns”’the deer.
What I’m against is some jackass putting a stand on the property line, even if it’s facing his side.
Or trying to hunt on a couple acres, because they are gonna be shooting towards the adjacent property 99%of the time. I agree and if the stand is on the line and facing your property then they ARE hunting your property
Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Old Mossy Horns
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The reality is 95% of people hunting lines are going to shoot a 140" buck walking on the neighbors side. You are hunting your own property, until suddenly you are not when that buck shows up across the line or you have to blood trail him on someone else's land because he ran left instead of right. I'd rather avoid having to deal with that kind of dilemma and hunt where anything I can see is fair game.
The general exception to this is a stand on the line that is obviously facing a clear cut or green field on their own property. Sometimes there is nowhere else to put the stand and I'd rather have the neighbor shooting away from me than at me. More often than not though, the line hunters are folks whose timber company lease is overgrown with thick pines and they want to see down into the private land neighbors hardwoods. This post sums it up very well, and your exception is something that bothers very few. That isn't the problem. And the thing is that 95% of those who put a stand on the line looking at someone else's property isn't just looking for a 140; they are gonna shoot anything they can. No legit hunter wants to hunt right on the line where there's a high probability of being messed up by a neighbor engaged in any sort of random activity. A legit hunter wants to get as far away from the chance of that happening as possible. You can go most anywhere in the state and find stands on the line facing the other property. They aren't just "hunting every inch of my property." The purpose of putting the stand on the line is to shoot deer on the other property. And there's little chance of them being caught because they don't actually get on the other property until they go retrieve the deer, and even then they will claim they shot it on their side and the deer just ran across the line. So it's a criminal act, but it's really hard to catch the offender, and be sure that they know it. Why deny it or defend it? You have chosen to be a criminal. Anyone who will poach a deer off a neighbor's property will commit any other crime. Just own it and be proud. Get a Boyd Crowder shirt, button it to the top, and tell them catch me if you can. yep ,,,,, 
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People with more money and more land should definitely have more rights than the poors. People with toe-thumbs should have to pay double for a turkey license too. 👍🏽👍🏽
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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The reality is 95% of people hunting lines are going to shoot a 140" buck walking on the neighbors side. You are hunting your own property, until suddenly you are not when that buck shows up across the line or you have to blood trail him on someone else's land because he ran left instead of right. I'd rather avoid having to deal with that kind of dilemma and hunt where anything I can see is fair game.
The general exception to this is a stand on the line that is obviously facing a clear cut or green field on their own property. Sometimes there is nowhere else to put the stand and I'd rather have the neighbor shooting away from me than at me. More often than not though, the line hunters are folks whose timber company lease is overgrown with thick pines and they want to see down into the private land neighbors hardwoods. This post sums it up very well, and your exception is something that bothers very few. That isn't the problem. And the thing is that 95% of those who put a stand on the line looking at someone else's property isn't just looking for a 140; they are gonna shoot anything they can. No legit hunter wants to hunt right on the line where there's a high probability of being messed up by a neighbor engaged in any sort of random activity. A legit hunter wants to get as far away from the chance of that happening as possible. You can go most anywhere in the state and find stands on the line facing the other property. They aren't just "hunting every inch of my property." The purpose of putting the stand on the line is to shoot deer on the other property. And there's little chance of them being caught because they don't actually get on the other property until they go retrieve the deer, and even then they will claim they shot it on their side and the deer just ran across the line. So it's a criminal act, but it's really hard to catch the offender, and be sure that they know it. Why deny it or defend it? You have chosen to be a criminal. Anyone who will poach a deer off a neighbor's property will commit any other crime. Just own it and be proud. Get a Boyd Crowder shirt, button it to the top, and tell them catch me if you can. Boyd style shirt buttoning only applies to turkey season
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
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I’m not arguing over who “owns”’the deer.
What I’m against is some jackass putting a stand on the property line, even if it’s facing his side.
Or trying to hunt on a couple acres, because they are gonna be shooting towards the adjacent property 99%of the time. I agree and if the stand is on the line and facing your property then they ARE hunting your property Stop it with such common sense. This is aldeer
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
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Sorry AU I tried but just could not help myself lol CNC your porch/shooting house comparison is apples to oranges. A home is for living in a shooting house is for hunting. You’re really stretching on that one but the coffee maker is a great idea. And nobody has answered your question I will. I think about 20 acres is as small as I would consider a reasonable hunting property. Big enough there is a good chance a shot deer or bullet won’t cross the line and big enough there is food or cover for deer to actually live in and utilize. As far as rights go, the right is to hunt the deer of Alabama and rich or poor everyone’s right is the same. What differs is how that right can be utilized. And that is based on personal circumstances. Like anything else in life those with discretionary income can use it to get a superior hunting experience. Those who don’t can still hunt, they may just have to do it on the public land our tax dollars pay for or make friends with someone who has some dirt. Sorta like our right to work. Everyone has the right to work but some drive to work in a Ferrari and some take public transportation
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