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You could always supplement your income giving turkey and quail seminars. I give several a year, trust me, there is no supplement to my income there! 
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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I am trying hard to resist temptation.  When I get gobbler's spraying bill, its probably gonna make me forget about spending any more money.  I am about ready to divorce the Yildiz; tired of fooling with it. But now I've got all these 20 gauge components and nothing to use them in. This gives me an idea. You must never have run a small business  With what little profit margin I have in spraying, paying overhead, gas, and splitting it with my partner, I'll be lucky to have enough to take my wife out for dinner, much less buy her a shotgun  I am still, however, thinking she REALLY NEEDS a replacement shotgun  If I can just find a job that makes enough to pay for it!! You do need the shotgun, but I ain't buying the sob story about not making any money. You don't pay the Mexicans but a dollar a day.  >>>I'm thinking about getting a big magnet of some sort, finding and recycling all that TSS PCP has shot working with the Yildiz. I can supplement a M2 20ga I think off the resale of the TSS he has gone through <<< You are welcome to come and get it. I've shot nearly 2 pounds this year, so that's $100 if you can recover it all. There is more from previous years too. I shoulda made a trap when I first started loading this stuff. But I am gonna quit testing it, and this time I really mean it. 
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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But I am gonna quit testing it, and this time I really mean it. Yeah right!
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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You do need the shotgun, but I ain't buying the sob story about not making any money. You don't pay the Mexicans but a dollar a day.  Wait till you see the bill and you will see how true my statement is  You got it cheap!! You might even buy me a benelli or give me the Yildiz as a bonus!!
Last edited by gobbler; 08/28/12 10:27 PM.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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You do need the shotgun, but I ain't buying the sob story about not making any money. You don't pay the Mexicans but a dollar a day.  Wait till you see the bill and you will see how true my statement is  You got it cheap!! You might even buy me a benelli or give me the Yildiz as a bonus!! You got a far better chance of getting the Yildiz than a new Benelli. What say I give you the Yildiz and all the accessories and you take $1000 off the bill? 
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I've said this before, but if was me, I'd sight the left barrel in at 40 yds, and then load and choke the right barrel wide. My two main turkey guns require me to adjust my aim (I don't like dots and scopes yet), and it's never been an issue. You won't ever need the wide barrel unless you mess up and let him get too close anyway.
On the other hand, a M2 is mighty sweet...
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I agree with Hal. Get the benelli and have them both. In the search for 300 count ten rings and 100 yard guns we tend to over complicate things. When you have a 20 inch killing pattern a few inches isnt that bad. Kill em with the left barrel and scare em with the right. 
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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I've said this before, but if was me, I'd sight the left barrel in at 40 yds, and then load and choke the right barrel wide. My two main turkey guns require me to adjust my aim (I don't like dots and scopes yet), and it's never been an issue. You won't ever need the wide barrel unless you mess up and let him get too close anyway.
On the other hand, a M2 is mighty sweet... Hal and n2deer, you guys are both no doubt right that I could get by with it that way. I shot some lead loads out of the IC choke today and it shows promise. I might work something out with it yet.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Just run some Federal Heavyweight 7's through that thing and forget the TSS on that gun. Tight choke it on one side and you'll have at least at 45 yard gun but probably 50 if you find the right choke. Leave the other side more open and you'll be in business. Those Federal 7's are bad news.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Just run some Federal Heavyweight 7's through that thing and forget the TSS on that gun. Tight choke it on one side and you'll have at least at 45 yard gun but probably 50 if you find the right choke. Leave the other side more open and you'll be in business. Those Federal 7's are bad news. I believe that the 1.25 oz hevi would be good to 50 yards; those SumToy chokes throw amazing patterns. Any shotgun I buy in the future will have one of his chokes made for it. They are built like a tank and shoot the best patterns I've seen.
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Jughead he wont tell anyone if he shoots a bird with a inferior factory load.
Pcp, im curious what hevi load did you try and what were the results?
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Jughead he wont tell anyone if he shoots a bird with a inferior factory load.
Pcp, im curious what hevi load did you try and what were the results? Its a 1.25 oz #6 load. I just bought several different turkey loads to see if it would shoot them POA. I had a few minutes just before dark one day and shot one in the mod barrel and had 95 hits in the 10" at 40. Later I tried the extra full choke and it was much tighter than that, but I didn't bother to count cause it threw the pattern to the side. But it was tight enough at 40 that it would still be good at 50, assuming you could hit him.
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Ok, I have some of those. That was why I asked.
Going to give them a try in the stoeger and 500.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Hey Troy, you have said your wife shoots a 20 gauge Baretta; please compare and contrast it to an M2? I've just come in to some money. 
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PCP, she never lets me shoot it!!!  I hazzard a guess that a M2 20 is the best 20 you can get for a turkey gun.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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PCP, she never lets me shoot it!!!  I hazzard a guess that a M2 20 is the best 20 you can get for a turkey gun..... Thanks, I kinda figured it was. Doesn't look like Beretta is making much effort to market a 20 gauge auto. Most models come in 12 gauge only. I gotta decide to either buy the M2 or put some more money into the Yildiz. I thought I was in love with the Turkish girl, but the Italian girl has gotten into my head. I shoulda known better than to ever mess with foreigners; life was much simpler when I was strictly a Remington man. 
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ya know a nice lil straight stocked Parker in a 20ga would make a nice gun.....  American made too.... sorry, ya avatar made me do it...
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Now that you've handled that Italian gal, you might as well see what she does inside a 10" and 20" circle at 40 yds with the TSS.... 2-3/4" shell  3" shell 
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Thanks Hal. but I've already been looking at those.  But actually, the Yildiz will shoot that well too, it just won't shoot straight. I think I'm gonna talk to Brileys some more about their eccentric chokes.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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ya know a nice lil straight stocked Parker in a 20ga would make a nice gun.....  American made too.... sorry, ya avatar made me do it... I didn't come into that much money. 
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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