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That hurt like hell.

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Originally Posted by cartervj
It is called a vaccine and there is no such thing as any vaccine having a 100% efficiency. The flu for one. There are all sorts of immune therapy’s. Dad took 2 T Cell therapy for his cancer. A good friends friend has been working with mRNA vaccines for over 20 years the Covid version is very new and first time mRNA vaccines were used in the public. There have been trials for some time. All sorts of therapies being trialed. Heck they use AIDS to attack cancer cells in targeted therapies.



Here's some truth for you that you can easily research for yourself. Do you know why the mRNA vaccines were researched and trials run on them for over 20 yrs??? Because they were never able to get approval for the mRNA delivery system through the existing long term clinical trials required for the vaccines and delivery system to be approved for public use. Why is that? Because of a myriad of catastrophic side effects in the test subjects. To be honest, I'm not sure that it ever got to the point where human clinical trials were allowed. Yet this great Covid disease comes along and they say, hey, they are giving us immunity from all liability and eliminating pretty much all of the required testing, lets go ahead and try that new mRNA delivery technology we've spent all this money on trying to develop and the get all our money back from the govt, who will market and push it for us. Fact is, there has never been a successful mRNA trial, under the required testing protocol for full approval. Covid and the emergency order, allowed them to circumvent it all and jump straight to human trails. Only problem with the human trials is that nobody is tracking anything related to the 100s of millions of participants in the trial, so the true results and side effects of the experiment, will never be known. Used to be the 4-5 deaths and a handful of bad side effects were enough to get a vax or med pulled and use authorization revoked. No longer the case.

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
SEWoodsWhitetail, im with you but you wont get much traction on that. Doctors are heros. They would never do anything to endanger a patient. They always have their best interest at heart, it has nothing to do with money.


No they aren't. Not for me anyways. They don't doctor now, they look up your symptoms on a computer and write you a script. My doc was giving me hell about not getting the covid vax, and when I challenged her to explain falsified data in the Pfizer study, it was clear she knew nothing about any of that. My doc said my BP was high last visit, it was 109/70 at the doc in the box. Even someone with all her education and training isn't smart enough to see that when her nurse walks me from the waiting room to a scale and then to a room and immediately takes my BP, its going to be elevated. Reckon how many patients she has taking BP meds that don't need to take them?

People see what they want to see, and they believe what they want to believe. For me this was simple, I wasn't going to be forced to get a shot, and chose to believe that if it was my time, Jesus was going to bring me home no matter what I did. I said they same thing about churches shutting down. Where was the faith? Why not have church and pray for a hedge of protection?

As for heaven, every person I have ever heard speak of it after a near death experience said they didn't want to come back. Must be pretty awesome place if you don't even care about seeing any of your family again.

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To be clear Im a Non jabber …i Always get a kick outta folks crucifying all the vaxxers & ranting about all the “unknowns” regarding covid vaccines.. majority of those condemning the vaxxers have no problem smoking , vaping ,dipping , chewing, drinking, using pills, illegal drugs ,supplements etc . What about all those “unknowns” these folks use every day?? Hypocrites maybe??

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
I don’t think so man, it will go unsaid officially as folk just fade away of “natural causes”


The Govt. and the medical community ignoring those
3 foot long fibrous clots that undertakers are pulling
out of vaccinated people tells me all I need to know.

Nothing to see here. We’ve put our “Top Men” on it.

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Originally Posted by cartervj
It is called a vaccine and there is no such thing as any vaccine having a 100% efficiency. The flu for one. There are all sorts of immune therapy’s. Dad took 2 T Cell therapy for his cancer. A good friends friend has been working with mRNA vaccines for over 20 years the Covid version is very new and first time mRNA vaccines were used in the public. There have been trials for some time. All sorts of therapies being trialed. Heck they use AIDS to attack cancer cells in targeted therapies.

I do believe the Covid vaccine worked very early on but failed rapidly as the virus mutated. Maybe the vaccine caused that to occur. There were theories that might happen

Who the hell is Robert Malone or this Dr McCullough. Are we certain they have the greatest of intention or is it they align with our own beliefs? They certainly weren’t known before all of this.

Dr McCullough mentioned that the vaccine causes the spike protein to initiate a response to continually reoccur and that was worrisome. Is that in everyone or just a percentage? Is that percentage the same as others that have had vaccine injuries from other vaxes?

Theres plenty of wiggle room for the actual truth. There’s plenty of hyperbole on both sides and I’m pretty sure there were BIL intentions with Covid being played out. I’m just not convinced the conspiracy theories all add up for either side. It think there’s a little truth found in the middle.



Robert Malone is who actually discovered the MRNA technology and is quite knowledgeable on it when he says it wasn’t intended to be used on everyone straight across the board

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My azz itches, must be that damn vax.


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Originally Posted by eclipse829
My azz itches, must be that damn vax.


Prob not the vax. I'd start with wiping better and I bet that itch goes away. Might smell fresher too. grin

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Pinworms. You should have use the ivermectin and bypassed the clot shot.

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I stick by the vax diognosis. It's the cause of every ailment that a vaxxed person experiences. I read it on here.


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Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
Originally Posted by cartervj
It is called a vaccine and there is no such thing as any vaccine having a 100% efficiency. The flu for one. There are all sorts of immune therapy’s. Dad took 2 T Cell therapy for his cancer. A good friends friend has been working with mRNA vaccines for over 20 years the Covid version is very new and first time mRNA vaccines were used in the public. There have been trials for some time. All sorts of therapies being trialed. Heck they use AIDS to attack cancer cells in targeted therapies.

I do believe the Covid vaccine worked very early on but failed rapidly as the virus mutated. Maybe the vaccine caused that to occur. There were theories that might happen

Who the hell is Robert Malone or this Dr McCullough. Are we certain they have the greatest of intention or is it they align with our own beliefs? They certainly weren’t known before all of this.

Dr McCullough mentioned that the vaccine causes the spike protein to initiate a response to continually reoccur and that was worrisome. Is that in everyone or just a percentage? Is that percentage the same as others that have had vaccine injuries from other vaxes?

Theres plenty of wiggle room for the actual truth. There’s plenty of hyperbole on both sides and I’m pretty sure there were BIL intentions with Covid being played out. I’m just not convinced the conspiracy theories all add up for either side. It think there’s a little truth found in the middle.



Robert Malone is who actually discovered the MRNA technology and is quite knowledgeable on it when he says it wasn’t intended to be used on everyone straight across the board



You’re kinda proving my point. No one knew who he was and that mRNA vaccines existed except those thousands of medical researchers working with the differing uses. It’s been trialed in numerous viruses. There as a human study with mRNA rabies vaccines

Wonder how they like the spotlight and how many book deals are in the works.

It’s not hard to find anyone that believes your point view

I’ve yet to see any 100% agreement amongst any group, professional or otherwise.


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Originally Posted by RCHRR
Pinworms. You should have use the ivermectin and bypassed the clot shot.



I’m willing to bet aldeer is 100% parasite free. 😂


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Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
I don’t think so man, it will go unsaid officially as folk just fade away of “natural causes”


The Govt. and the medical community ignoring those
3 foot long fibrous clots that undertakers are pulling
out of vaccinated people tells me all I need to know.

Nothing to see here. We’ve put our “Top Men” on it.



Been debunked


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Dadgummit Carter youre starting to sound like them. They "debunk" everything they dont want you to believe. They debuked everything Trump said for four years. They debunk their own debunkins. The word dont even mean anything any more.

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Hey, either take it or don’t take it.

Boost up !

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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
I don’t think so man, it will go unsaid officially as folk just fade away of “natural causes”


The Govt. and the medical community ignoring those
3 foot long fibrous clots that undertakers are pulling
out of vaccinated people tells me all I need to know.

Nothing to see here. We’ve put our “Top Men” on it.



Been debunked


Nope

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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
Originally Posted by cartervj
It is called a vaccine and there is no such thing as any vaccine having a 100% efficiency. The flu for one. There are all sorts of immune therapy’s. Dad took 2 T Cell therapy for his cancer. A good friends friend has been working with mRNA vaccines for over 20 years the Covid version is very new and first time mRNA vaccines were used in the public. There have been trials for some time. All sorts of therapies being trialed. Heck they use AIDS to attack cancer cells in targeted therapies.

I do believe the Covid vaccine worked very early on but failed rapidly as the virus mutated. Maybe the vaccine caused that to occur. There were theories that might happen

Who the hell is Robert Malone or this Dr McCullough. Are we certain they have the greatest of intention or is it they align with our own beliefs? They certainly weren’t known before all of this.

Dr McCullough mentioned that the vaccine causes the spike protein to initiate a response to continually reoccur and that was worrisome. Is that in everyone or just a percentage? Is that percentage the same as others that have had vaccine injuries from other vaxes?

Theres plenty of wiggle room for the actual truth. There’s plenty of hyperbole on both sides and I’m pretty sure there were BIL intentions with Covid being played out. I’m just not convinced the conspiracy theories all add up for either side. It think there’s a little truth found in the middle.



Robert Malone is who actually discovered the MRNA technology and is quite knowledgeable on it when he says it wasn’t intended to be used on everyone straight across the board



You’re kinda proving my point. No one knew who he was and that mRNA vaccines existed except those thousands of medical researchers working with the differing uses. It’s been trialed in numerous viruses. There as a human study with mRNA rabies vaccines

Wonder how they like the spotlight and how many book deals are in the works.

It’s not hard to find anyone that believes your point view

I’ve yet to see any 100% agreement amongst any group, professional or otherwise.



You're looking for agreement from the same ones who pushed fatal covid protocols like Remdesiver while demonizing two of the safest drugs in history? Don't think that's ever gonna happen. The main thing this covid thing exposed, outside of government corruption, is that 95% of the medical community is incompetent , apathetic or just plain evil. People can disagree with me but if I, an average citizen, was on record as early as March 2020 questioning all of the data and treatments, you'd think trained professionals would have done the same. I have heard time after time how we just didn't know what to do or what would be effective and its all horseshit. They knew damn well what Remdesiver did and why most other countries banned it. Either medical professionals were too apathetic and incompetent to care or too corrupt to refuse. There are no other options


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Originally Posted by bill
Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
Originally Posted by cartervj
It is called a vaccine and there is no such thing as any vaccine having a 100% efficiency. The flu for one. There are all sorts of immune therapy’s. Dad took 2 T Cell therapy for his cancer. A good friends friend has been working with mRNA vaccines for over 20 years the Covid version is very new and first time mRNA vaccines were used in the public. There have been trials for some time. All sorts of therapies being trialed. Heck they use AIDS to attack cancer cells in targeted therapies.

I do believe the Covid vaccine worked very early on but failed rapidly as the virus mutated. Maybe the vaccine caused that to occur. There were theories that might happen

Who the hell is Robert Malone or this Dr McCullough. Are we certain they have the greatest of intention or is it they align with our own beliefs? They certainly weren’t known before all of this.

Dr McCullough mentioned that the vaccine causes the spike protein to initiate a response to continually reoccur and that was worrisome. Is that in everyone or just a percentage? Is that percentage the same as others that have had vaccine injuries from other vaxes?

Theres plenty of wiggle room for the actual truth. There’s plenty of hyperbole on both sides and I’m pretty sure there were BIL intentions with Covid being played out. I’m just not convinced the conspiracy theories all add up for either side. It think there’s a little truth found in the middle.



Robert Malone is who actually discovered the MRNA technology and is quite knowledgeable on it when he says it wasn’t intended to be used on everyone straight across the board



You’re kinda proving my point. No one knew who he was and that mRNA vaccines existed except those thousands of medical researchers working with the differing uses. It’s been trialed in numerous viruses. There as a human study with mRNA rabies vaccines

Wonder how they like the spotlight and how many book deals are in the works.

It’s not hard to find anyone that believes your point view

I’ve yet to see any 100% agreement amongst any group, professional or otherwise.



You're looking for agreement from the same ones who pushed fatal covid protocols like Remdesiver while demonizing two of the safest drugs in history? Don't think that's ever gonna happen. The main thing this covid thing exposed, outside of government corruption, is that 95% of the medical community is incompetent , apathetic or just plain evil. People can disagree with me but if I, an average citizen, was on record as early as March 2020 questioning all of the data and treatments, you'd think trained professionals would have done the same. I have heard time after time how we just didn't know what to do or what would be effective and its all horseshit. They knew damn well what Remdesiver did and why most other countries banned it. Either medical professionals were too apathetic and incompetent to care or too corrupt to refuse. There are no other options


The process you describe is “Blackbox” in the medical community, its about the money. The process of shelving proven medications especially those where a generic exist and pushing the new or “renewed” version. A renewed version is where the mix or alter or repatent an old med and give it a new name.

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