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Those being pushed to be vaccinated was it perceived or actually forced?
No one pushed me at all. Even the docs I talked to said it may be advantageous but up to me. My primary actually said where I work and so forth I wouldn’t. Your exposure will come from your wife and where she works.
My wife actually dealt with being forced to and she revolted hard. She fought for her and her employees although many probably took it on their own early on.
Best I can tell the truth about Covid seems to lie where one chooses it to be All the medical folks I’ve asked about Covid have been mostly nonchalant and not the hysterical hyperbole that I see posted here If you watched the video with Dr. McCullough you didn't see hyperbole. He laid it out very plainly just as he has since covid started. I hate it for those who weren't listening to him but he has been the voice of truth since this started and has risked a brilliant, decorated carrer to do it. All without benefit to himself while some of his colleagues have tried to paint him as a kook in spite of his carrer accomplishments and evidence to the contrary. Exactly. He and others post nothing but medical facts. It’s not theory or hyperbole. As in ANY medical test trial ANY adverse reaction is caused by the tested treatment UNTIL proven otherwise. The ONLY exception in history has been Covid, where all adverse events were blamed on everything but the treatment. It’s absolute insanity.
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Those being pushed to be vaccinated was it perceived or actually forced?
No one pushed me at all. Even the docs I talked to said it may be advantageous but up to me. My primary actually said where I work and so forth I wouldn’t. Your exposure will come from your wife and where she works.
My wife actually dealt with being forced to and she revolted hard. She fought for her and her employees although many probably took it on their own early on.
Best I can tell the truth about Covid seems to lie where one chooses it to be All the medical folks I’ve asked about Covid have been mostly nonchalant and not the hysterical hyperbole that I see posted here If you watched the video with Dr. McCullough you didn't see hyperbole. He laid it out very plainly just as he has since covid started. I hate it for those who weren't listening to him but he has been the voice of truth since this started and has risked a brilliant, decorated carrer to do it. All without benefit to himself while some of his colleagues have tried to paint him as a kook in spite of his carrer accomplishments and evidence to the contrary. Bill I agree with about 90-95 percent of what he is saying. He lost me when he said sick and elderly were the only ones that died. I beg to differ. I know of several extremely healthy athletic people in their 30s and 40s that either died are still suffer. Absolutely no underlying conditions until they got Covid. I’ve never advocated that anyone but those at risk to consider the vax. I absolutely agree you’d be a dunbass to be boosted or vaxxed now. I’m extremely proud of the way my wife handled her situation for her employees. I’m not fully committed to his talk 100%. I’m still waiting to hear of any consensus on genetics adverse effects for getting Covid. There’s something there and I know it as studied. First it was blood type and then it shifted. I know of 3 that died quickly from Covid. A father and his sons. Bill and Cal I’ve never ever advocated for anyone to be forced absolutely no way. I’ve always said if you had no underlying conditions you don’t need it and young people absolutely should avoid it. Apparently no one except the highest of risk should’ve considered it early in and became apparent that should’ve been stopped when all the fully vaxxed and or boosted showed up in hospitals and on vent. That one still irks me personally. Had I known 2 weeks prior I’d skipped the vax as it was known locally but not told.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Those being pushed to be vaccinated was it perceived or actually forced?
No one pushed me at all. Even the docs I talked to said it may be advantageous but up to me. My primary actually said where I work and so forth I wouldn’t. Your exposure will come from your wife and where she works.
My wife actually dealt with being forced to and she revolted hard. She fought for her and her employees although many probably took it on their own early on.
Best I can tell the truth about Covid seems to lie where one chooses it to be All the medical folks I’ve asked about Covid have been mostly nonchalant and not the hysterical hyperbole that I see posted here If you watched the video with Dr. McCullough you didn't see hyperbole. He laid it out very plainly just as he has since covid started. I hate it for those who weren't listening to him but he has been the voice of truth since this started and has risked a brilliant, decorated carrer to do it. All without benefit to himself while some of his colleagues have tried to paint him as a kook in spite of his carrer accomplishments and evidence to the contrary. Exactly. He and others post nothing but medical facts. It’s not theory or hyperbole. As in ANY medical test trial ANY adverse reaction is caused by the tested treatment UNTIL proven otherwise. The ONLY exception in history has been Covid, where all adverse events were blamed on everything but the treatment. It’s absolute insanity. And Trump ramrodded that process. He may have been duped but he signed the papers. that’s a slippery situation that will come back in him. I still contend like the doc stated. It was basically a bio weapon and scared the heck out those in the know as what it could become
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Those being pushed to be vaccinated was it perceived or actually forced?
No one pushed me at all. Even the docs I talked to said it may be advantageous but up to me. My primary actually said where I work and so forth I wouldn’t. Your exposure will come from your wife and where she works.
My wife actually dealt with being forced to and she revolted hard. She fought for her and her employees although many probably took it on their own early on.
Best I can tell the truth about Covid seems to lie where one chooses it to be All the medical folks I’ve asked about Covid have been mostly nonchalant and not the hysterical hyperbole that I see posted here If you watched the video with Dr. McCullough you didn't see hyperbole. He laid it out very plainly just as he has since covid started. I hate it for those who weren't listening to him but he has been the voice of truth since this started and has risked a brilliant, decorated carrer to do it. All without benefit to himself while some of his colleagues have tried to paint him as a kook in spite of his carrer accomplishments and evidence to the contrary. Exactly. He and others post nothing but medical facts. It’s not theory or hyperbole. As in ANY medical test trial ANY adverse reaction is caused by the tested treatment UNTIL proven otherwise. The ONLY exception in history has been Covid, where all adverse events were blamed on everything but the treatment. It’s absolute insanity. And Trump ramrodded that process. He may have been duped but he signed the papers. that’s a slippery situation that will come back in him. I still contend like the doc stated. It was basically a bio weapon and scared the heck out those in the know as what it could become I agree. I think everyone hit the panic button at first, on both sides of the political spectrum. My problem with the entire process was rolling out a vaccine like they did, knowing full well what the result would be. They didn’t care, which makes me consider the likelihood it was planned that way. I didn’t believe a single word the gov or CDC presented to the public from day one. I do not trust our government. They’re too corrupt and being led by satanic forces, and Satan desires nothing less than to destroy what God has created, both spiritually and physically. The whole thing is purely evil. The negative reactions a lot of ppl had due to the shot can’t be ignored or disregarded at this point. Now I also believe the naturally occurring spike protein in the virus itself is also damaging to the circulatory and respiratory systems, but the shots turned out not to do any of the things they claimed. In fact, it killed, and will result in many more killed, before it’s over. I know of several perfectly healthy young people who died of Covid. Also know several who died from unknown strokes, clots or cardiac arrest within days to weeks of that shot. MANY that I know have suffered myocarditis, heart arrhythmias and neurological disfunction following the shots too.
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I agree. I think everyone hit the panic button at first, on both sides of the political spectrum. My problem with the entire process was rolling out a vaccine like they did, knowing full well what the result would be. They didn’t care, which makes me consider the likelihood it was planned that way. I didn’t believe a single word the gov or CDC presented to the public from day one. I do not trust our government. They’re too corrupt and being led by satanic forces, and Satan desires nothing less than to destroy what God has created, both spiritually and physically. The whole thing is purely evil. The negative reactions a lot of ppl had due to the shot can’t be ignored or disregarded at this point. Now I also believe the naturally occurring spike protein in the virus itself is also damaging to the circulatory and respiratory systems, but the shots turned out not to do any of the things they claimed. In fact, it killed, and will result in many more killed, before it’s over. I know of several perfectly healthy young people who died of Covid. Also know several who died from unknown strokes, clots or cardiac arrest within days to weeks of that shot. MANY that I know have suffered myocarditis, heart arrhythmias and neurological disfunction following the shots too. [/quote]
Yep don’t trust anything the cdc says. All of these organizations have been taken over by insane maniacs.
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I’ll say that I’ve never seen anything like the Covid debate. Everyone has their own line in the sand. I have good friends that are not even close to my beliefs nor any others.
I struggle to believe it was unleashed to being on the vax. I get the depopulation theories but the majority of lefties took the jab. I’m talking probably 95-98% progressives took the jar out of the 75% of the population vaxxed. That makes no SBEs to kill off you own and not your enemy.
I agree that satan is at work. He’s never quit he just has the progressive leftist at his disposal and sadly they’re increasing rapidly in numbers. The globalist live for the hysteria. No better way to implement their NWO goals.
There as absolutely a top down control of the narrative and all things considers with Covid. That’ll never come to light I’m sure or at least I have my doubts. Our media has no interest in journalistic integrity
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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I’ll say that I’ve never seen anything like the Covid debate. Everyone has their own line in the sand. I have good friends that are not even close to my beliefs nor any others.
I struggle to believe it was unleashed to being on the vax. I get the depopulation theories but the majority of lefties took the jab. I’m talking probably 95-98% progressives took the jar out of the 75% of the population vaxxed. That makes no SBEs to kill off you own and not your enemy.
I agree that satan is at work. He’s never quit he just has the progressive leftist at his disposal and sadly they’re increasing rapidly in numbers. The globalist live for the hysteria. No better way to implement their NWO goals.
There as absolutely a top down control of the narrative and all things considers with Covid. That’ll never come to light I’m sure or at least I have my doubts. Our media has no interest in journalistic integrity The thing I'd point out is that the left doesn't care about their voter base now. They have figured out its easier to steal an election than win one so they aren't really concerned with their base. I have no doubt this was used as a money making, control tactic. If it was released on purpose I'm not sure but I'm inclined to believe it was. I think the motives and tactics might remain a mystery but the science behind the vaccine and Healthcare protocol is settled, from what I've watched and read from sources I trust.
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate" Bama_Earl
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Do a little research into the origins of Western medicine. As soon as John Rockefeller realized the potential of petroleum based treatments, he effectively bought out all the medical colleges in the country and forced them to teach his form of medicine, known mostly for blood letting, despite not being a doctor in any capacity. He also founded the AMA to control all licensing and effectively control the medical industry he sought to create. There were people that were put in jail for teaching anything other than the Rockefeller approved practices. He was successful in discrediting anything other than the philosophy that drives western medicine today; treat the symptom as if it were the disease. Meanwhile, the vast majority of medical doctors now do nothing more than prescribe a petroleum based pill to every patient that walks through the door. They can't even cure the common cold.
The overwhelming support for the covid vaccine by medical doctors SCREAMS incompetency, as if the regimen of 70+ standard vaccines and their ill effects didn't already. We spend more than any other country on healthcare yet we are more unhealthy than ever as a country. Western medicine is sickcare rather than healthcare.
The movie "Dallas Buyers Club" (true story) does a great job of illustrating why the FDA exists to push products for Big Pharma while regulating any potential cures/treatments that may be easily accessible and cheap out of the market through threat of legal action.
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SEWoodsWhitetail, im with you but you wont get much traction on that. Doctors are heros. They would never do anything to endanger a patient. They always have their best interest at heart, it has nothing to do with money.
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Some at the top have allowed greed to take over the top of about every government institution and a bunch of corporate institutions. They are completely out of touch with reality and care nothing about everyday people. It’s been being done along time such as previous wars where politicians send our people to be killed and fabricate the reasons why. 911 is a good example of what kind of evil and extent they will go to to create war and control. Most use to believe it but not anymore. It’s become obvious what’s been going on. Our country has been slowly taken over by these radical insane people and getting out of this is gonna be interesting leading up to 24. Be ready for anything and everything. Nothing is off the table including killing innocent people on purpose to try and keep power.
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At the beginning of Covid the left jumped up and down they would not take the Trump vaccine. Then the right wouldn’t take the Biden backed vaccine (which Trump pushed thru)
The psychology of politics is somewhat entertaining and shows the mentality of my team versus your team cheerleading
I’m sorry I’ll take todays medicine over what it replaced. I’m sorry y’all mistrust your docs. My cardiologist was truly pissed she had to put a stent in me. Maybe it’s she’s friends with my wife. 🤷♂️
All that said I get the level of mistrust. Social engineering is deeply embedded into every aspect of our lives today. Social media controls us no matter what one thinks. MTV blazed that trail in the late 80s and ramped up into the 90s forward. Now it’s very entrenched.
In actuality I trust very few and is not politically based I hope. Everyone has an agenda, call me paranoid but I believe that to be absolute. I’ve always tried to look past the why of any beliefs
If y’all recall I’ve been saying for years this country has been lost. What sucks is we’re just now finding out
I’m on board with y’all’s sentiment that how Covid was handled definitively was top down get in line stay in your lane managed. I believe it as a huge social experiment as anything. I fear worse things are ahead for this country.
Chaos is control
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Bill I’m torn on whether Covid was unleashed or escaped. No better way to stop the Trump agenda, then again don’t let a crisis go to waste.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Bill I’m torn on whether Covid was unleashed or escaped. No better way to stop the Trump agenda, then again don’t let a crisis go to waste. What if I told you Trump was part of the plan? He federally funded the vaccine. He takes a victory lap every time the topic comes up.
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The DNA of the original strains tells you all you need to know on whether it was engineered and released.
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Oh look... another thread with a bunch of anti-vaxers telling everyone they are going to die........
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Oh look... another thread with a bunch of anti-vaxers telling everyone they are going to die........
Kind of like when all the vaxers said non vaxers were gonna die and kill everyone else.
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The China virus is, was, and always will be a human induced genetic variation created on a dual track with vaccines. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy when you cry for 10 or 15 years about global pandemics in the Main Stream Media and are researching both a vaccine and mutations. The mutation originally infected humans in a city adjacent to the location of a facility engaged in those mutation tests. Now I ain’t the absolute smartest man in the planet but I ain’t the dumbest neither. The egg heads built their toy and it’s cage and couldn’t keep the door to the cage locked well enough. The hubris of scientists will eventually be our downfall. The idiocy of believing the crap coming out of our government is evident when Nuclear Energy was the devil for much of my life only to become the new god of environmentalism. Anybody believing in what the Chinese have to say is a sucker
“It’s enough to make a man feel sour. Burning minutes every day by the hour. Just to end up gone like everything else.”
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Oh look... another thread with a bunch of anti-vaxers telling everyone they are going to die........
Kind of like when all the vaxers said non vaxers were gonna die and kill everyone else. Yep, remember, it was a "pandemic of the unvaxed" and if everyone would just get the vax, it would go away. They said this repeatedly, all while data continued to pour in that the vaccinated were getting and spreading it as much or more than the unvaxed. Couldn't admit any of that though because to do so, they'd have to admit that the vax didnt work like they had been telling and were telling everyone, in order to get them to take it.
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Don’t forget Biden said a few weeks ago they “ have a new vax that works this time” 
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The China virus is, was, and always will be a human induced genetic variation created on a dual track with vaccines. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy when you cry for 10 or 15 years about global pandemics in the Main Stream Media and are researching both a vaccine and mutations. The mutation originally infected humans in a city adjacent to the location of a facility engaged in those mutation tests. Now I ain’t the absolute smartest man in the planet but I ain’t the dumbest neither. The egg heads built their toy and it’s cage and couldn’t keep the door to the cage locked well enough. The hubris of scientists will eventually be our downfall. The idiocy of believing the crap coming out of our government is evident when Nuclear Energy was the devil for much of my life only to become the new god of environmentalism. Anybody believing in what the Chinese have to say is a sucker The genetics show it was released in multiple points of origin. The Wuhan strain was released that previous October at the International Military Games. It why everyone knew somebody that was pretty sick with the flu and pneumonia the fall and winter just prior. Remember, 60% of the human population is completely immune to covid. So even if you ate blue m&m’s for prevention it would have at least a 60% success rate. IT WAS ALL A SCAM !
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