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#3967492 08/28/23 05:48 PM
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The new age corn and cell camera combo? Personally, it's very frustrating to me, especially when the neighbors use this very strategy to shoot the 2-year-old 120" 11 point you beg them not to shoot. Also, the impressive 4-year-old that was passed multiple times.

Seems to me like this is gonna be the newfangled way that all the young bucks with the most potential start dying at record highs.


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120" two year olds? Wish I was your neighbor....

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Originally Posted by SEWoodsWhitetail
The new age corn and cell camera combo? Personally, it's very frustrating to me, especially when the neighbors use this very strategy to shoot the 2-year-old 120" 11 point you beg them not to shoot. Also, the impressive 4-year-old that was passed multiple times.

Seems to me like this is gonna be the newfangled way that all the young bucks with the most potential start dying at record highs.

People have been killing deer over corn for way longer than it’s been legal and cell cameras aren’t going to cause many more deer to die than the regular game cameras that have been around for many years.

The real problem is that people are to worried about what their neighbors are doing to enjoy hunting for themselves.

With that being said, I don’t hunt over corn mainly because I don’t want to attract hogs and my cell cameras are on mineral stumps and I pull them out of the woods shortly after bow season starts because my property floods in the winter.

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Eh, it’s Alabama. What did you expect.

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Per the hunter survey, buck harvest increased somewhere in the 35-40% range after baiting was legalized. Mediocre hunting is going to get more mediocrerer


Folks that know don't shoot old does........ wink
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Y’all already know my legitimate concerns with it so I’ll just sit back and watch 😉

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Originally Posted by Jason Carroll
120" two year olds? Wish I was your neighbor....

Yep.


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Most all my good bucks i let go disappear every year and i didn't shoot em 😀 - pretty sure all my good bucks gone from last year - they disappeared before season went out last year and i hunted less than ever in my best spot

Wish i had a 120 5 year old and i can guarantee u i dont hav any 120 three or 4 year olds and i dont shoot lot on my big lease and i did not even shoot at my best lease last year


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I’d like to see a 120” 2 year old in Alabama. That’s pretty much a unicorn

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Originally Posted by Jason Carroll
120" two year olds? Wish I was your neighbor....

Most potential I've ever seen in a North Alabama buck.


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Originally Posted by SEWoodsWhitetail
The new age corn and cell camera combo? Personally, it's very frustrating to me, especially when the neighbors use this very strategy to shoot the 2-year-old 120" 11 point you beg them not to shoot. Also, the impressive 4-year-old that was passed multiple times.

Seems to me like this is gonna be the newfangled way that all the young bucks with the most potential start dying at record highs.


Corn was all over before they legalized it. It was amazing how much feed we spotted flying all over MS and AL in the helo before it became legal

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Originally Posted by CNC
Per the hunter survey, buck harvest increased somewhere in the 35-40% range after baiting was legalized. Mediocre hunting is going to get more mediocrerer

Exactly! Even worse, what percentage of that extra 35-40% were mature bucks?

Likely less than 10% if I were guessing.


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Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by SEWoodsWhitetail
The new age corn and cell camera combo? Personally, it's very frustrating to me, especially when the neighbors use this very strategy to shoot the 2-year-old 120" 11 point you beg them not to shoot. Also, the impressive 4-year-old that was passed multiple times.

Seems to me like this is gonna be the newfangled way that all the young bucks with the most potential start dying at record highs.


Corn was all over before they legalized it. It was amazing how much feed we spotted flying all over MS and AL in the helo before it became legal

It's not so much the corn that bothers me. I mean, if it's your private property, I'm going to ere on the side of freedom and private property rights.

It just frustrates me that every John Doe in Alabama can do absolutely nothing other than fill their corn feeder up, sit at home watching TV, and wait until he gets an instant notification of a promising young buck at the feeder behind the house and shoot it out his back window. Fair chase has gotta come into play at some point, but I don't know how you can balance it all out and I know the GWs are gonna have an impossible time enforcing any change to what most feel entitled to now that it's been legal for a couple years.


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Originally Posted by TDog93
Most all my good bucks i let go disappear every year and i didn't shoot em 😀 - pretty sure all my good bucks gone from last year - they disappeared before season went out last year and i hunted less than ever in my best spot

Wish i had a 120 5 year old and i can guarantee u i dont hav any 120 three or 4 year olds and i dont shoot lot on my big lease and i did not even shoot at my best lease last year

Last year we had what we thought was a 3-year-old 12 with a lot of character and an awesome 3-year-old 9 that had been an 8 the previous year as a 2-year-old. My brother let both walk in early November and realized then that the 12 was most likely four. Haven't seen either on camera this summer so I figure they both went the way of the corn pile/cell cam too.

Not any mature bucks so far this year that will get me excited so probably gonna be a season of a lot of habitat work and not so much hunting. We do have a 3-year-old 10 and a new 2-year-old 8 this year so were hoping they make it through.


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Devils advocate but what if those younger bucks got the other people on the other land excited. What if that was a trophy to them. What if that’s the biggest deer they ever saw. What if they enjoy hunting for something other than an age class/ horn measurement. Are they wrong and should they be regulated

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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Devils advocate but what if those younger bucks got the other people on the other land excited. What if that was a trophy to them. What if that’s the biggest deer they ever saw. What if they enjoy hunting for something other than an age class/ horn measurement. Are they wrong and should they be regulated

I say no. I am very much in favor of people hunting how they want to and not being mandated into a state regulated trophy management mindset. The cell cam and corn combination has made it very easy to kill deer. There’s less deer making it into the older age classes because of it.

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I like shooting big bucks as much as the next person. But to worry about how much corn my neighbors have out or cell cameras or rather if they limit out on 2.5 year olds is not my concern. Cant control it. So why worry about it. I'm gonna sit there and enjoy my time in the woods and think about the glory days of dog hunting. Man what a blast it was

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Afraid i gone be frustrated to SEWoods

One of my good friends in Choctaw county raised a stud - at 4 he was mid to high130s easy w split brows. He asked everyone to let it walk - he was a great deer - neighbor killed him over corn pile

I will hav to get lucky to kill a mounter amd corn has gotten so expensive

May need to rethink and go pay $$ to go to iowa every year for 5 days - seriously


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Originally Posted by Mbrock
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Devils advocate but what if those younger bucks got the other people on the other land excited. What if that was a trophy to them. What if that’s the biggest deer they ever saw. What if they enjoy hunting for something other than an age class/ horn measurement. Are they wrong and should they be regulated

I say no. I am very much in favor of people hunting how they want to and not being mandated into a state regulated trophy management mindset. The cell cam and corn combination has made it very easy to kill deer. There’s less deer making it into the older age classes because of it.



I agree Matt. I think cell cams and corn are getting more mature bucks killed because people are holding out for specific bucks thus killing more of the most mature deer.

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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
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Devils advocate but what if those younger bucks got the other people on the other land excited. What if that was a trophy to them. What if that’s the biggest deer they ever saw. What if they enjoy hunting for something other than an age class/ horn measurement. Are they wrong and should they be regulated

I say no. I am very much in favor of people hunting how they want to and not being mandated into a state regulated trophy management mindset. The cell cam and corn combination has made it very easy to kill deer. There’s less deer making it into the older age classes because of it.



I agree Matt. I think cell cams and corn are getting more mature bucks killed because people are holding out for specific bucks thus killing more of the most mature deer.

What I’m seeing is the opposite. They’re not holding out for the more mature deer. They’re holding out for every buck with 8 or more points regardless of age. They’re high grading them to death.

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