</a JR Holmes Oil Company </a Shark Guard Southeast Woods and Whitetail Mayer Insurance Services LLC
Aldeer Classifieds
FS: ammo
by Morris - 05/09/25 11:00 PM
Remington 1187 Sportsman
by BHeron35 - 05/09/25 08:38 PM
Guns
by Bmyers142 - 05/09/25 05:23 PM
Anyone need some Lead
by Big Game Hunter - 05/09/25 04:00 PM
New England arms 243
by twaldrop4 - 05/09/25 12:46 PM
Serious Deer Talk
FL Bear Season ?
by BAR1225 - 05/09/25 10:54 PM
Burn Day 2025 (with a very happy ending!!)
by TDog93 - 05/08/25 07:11 PM
May
S M T W T F S
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31
Land, Leases, Hunting Clubs
South AL Club or Lease
by toothdoc - 03/14/25 11:08 AM
Who's Online Now
4 members (sw1002, k bush, hue, 1 invisible), 761 guests, and 0 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 21,974
Freak of Nature
Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 21,974
Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by gwstang
They never should have reintroduced those things. They grow big and can eat a person little or big, if they want too. WTH were these idiots thinking? If I had one that stayed around my place, he would disappear one day. I do not want anything like that living here. Why not some T-REX or such. Idiots!

Who reintroduced them? They've always been here. They were, and still are, protected to a degree, but they never disappeared.



This is what I was told by a former refuge manager:

Wheeler NWR director Tom Atkeson reintroduced them in the mid-1970s with the help of then Rep. Ronnie Flippo, who had to get some juice squeezed in Congress to get it done. It was touted as a "this is the northern part of their historic range, let's see if they can help with the "beaver problem" we have." They were extirpated, or believed to be, many years earlier in the Tennessee River and its tribs.

There was no beaver problem. It was done to see if they'd survive on the northernmost line of their historic range. Obviously, they have for the last 50 years. They breed and while we don't have as many as in the southern half of the state, they're here to stay. Considering much of the land and swamps-habitat between Decatur and Huntsville is protected by the Refuge or Redstone Arsenal, and also on the south side of the river, it's doubtful they'll ever go away.

I'm surprised no one's been snatched, to be honest. Only a matter of time as development edges more into or close to their habitat.



Is that where Big Al originated?
I forget which range he’s on but we were told he was the only thing that’d shut a range down


“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 21,974
Freak of Nature
Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 21,974
We saw one back in the 80s in Bellsink swamp in Oakland. About 3 ft long and big enough tot scare my friend for his dogs. We waded within 25-30 ft of it when it surfaced and then went back down. Left the floating blind behind and headed for the bank.

Every year they are seen around here in the river and creeks. They’ll make the timesdaily or did in the past.


“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 5,422
S
12 point
12 point
S Offline
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 5,422
I have seen a few big uns. One in Lay Lake, a couple in Millers Ferry and a couple at Eufala.

Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 7,014
T
14 point
14 point
T Offline
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 7,014
I believe it was 500 that they brought in. Can't remember where they put most of them, maybe Some where around Huntsville . When the general population found out and raised hell about it, they hired a gator trapper to,remove them. He caught 5 and said there was some he saw in the 8 foot range. There used to be a large one in Flint creek. Now there are some around Point Mallard so it's a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,170
G
8 point
8 point
G Offline
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,170
Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by gwstang
They never should have reintroduced those things. They grow big and can eat a person little or big, if they want too. WTH were these idiots thinking? If I had one that stayed around my place, he would disappear one day. I do not want anything like that living here. Why not some T-REX or such. Idiots!

Who reintroduced them? They've always been here. They were, and still are, protected to a degree, but they never disappeared.


Well, I'm 67 and when I was younger, my father and I fished all up and down the Coosa at Wetumpka/Tallapoosa/Alabama rivers. Also the dead river behind the island at the merging point. Never ever saw a gator in all that time. I mean a lot of time. Spent many many days camping/fishing/swimming on Eufaula. We would stay at the old White Oak campground. Tents back then. It was great growing up in the 60's-70's. The dead river would have been perfect habitat back then. Not too much flow in the summer and lots of great fishing holes.

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,143
K
10 point
10 point
K Offline
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,143
Originally Posted by BhamFred
kill it, there ain't no shortage of gators.

This

Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 18,162
Old Mossy Horns
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 18,162
Originally Posted by gwstang
Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by gwstang
They never should have reintroduced those things. They grow big and can eat a person little or big, if they want too. WTH were these idiots thinking? If I had one that stayed around my place, he would disappear one day. I do not want anything like that living here. Why not some T-REX or such. Idiots!

Who reintroduced them? They've always been here. They were, and still are, protected to a degree, but they never disappeared.


Well, I'm 67 and when I was younger, my father and I fished all up and down the Coosa at Wetumpka/Tallapoosa/Alabama rivers. Also the dead river behind the island at the merging point. Never ever saw a gator in all that time. I mean a lot of time. Spent many many days camping/fishing/swimming on Eufaula. We would stay at the old White Oak campground. Tents back then. It was great growing up in the 60's-70's. The dead river would have been perfect habitat back then. Not too much flow in the summer and lots of great fishing holes.



was a three foot one caught below thurlow dam in tallassee back in the early 70s , saw it with my own eyes . guy caught it bass fishing .

Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,619
14 point
14 point
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,619
I hope they become so many that all jet skiers and water skiing stops between G dam and Decatur.

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,593
G
Booner
Booner
G Offline
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,593
My new puppy wouldn’t stand a chance, she’s fearless… uhh clueless.
She’ll just go for a swim at 5 months old.
https://imgur.com/a/IwfVlV4


Everything woke turns to shucks
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,876
H
12 point
12 point
H Offline
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,876
People need to remember how to handle certain things and keep their mouth shut about it and certain things won’t matter much

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,000
10 point
10 point
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,000
Originally Posted by hoggin
People need to remember how to handle certain things and keep their mouth shut about it and certain things won’t matter much


That's what I was thinking.

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 7,392
R
14 point
14 point
R Offline
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 7,392
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Originally Posted by hoggin
People need to remember how to handle certain things and keep their mouth shut about it and certain things won’t matter much


That's what I was thinking.


I say quite a bit here. But there is a whole lot that I don't.

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 8,383
14 point
14 point
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 8,383
Originally Posted by Tigger85
I believe it was 500 that they brought in. Can't remember where they put most of them, maybe Some where around Huntsville . When the general population found out and raised hell about it, they hired a gator trapper to,remove them. He caught 5 and said there was some he saw in the 8 foot range. There used to be a large one in Flint creek. Now there are some around Point Mallard so it's a matter of time before someone gets hurt.


I don’t think it was 500, but I can’t recall the # I heard or read way back when.

Curious if Clem recalls a number being thrown around from the Refuge Manager….


Originally Posted by hillmp
The left lane is for the the purpose of moving the flow of traffic forward regardless of the speed limit. If your impeding the flow of traffic get your ass in the right lane. It's really that simple...

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,844
14 point
14 point
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,844
I don't think it was but about 75. But there were a few here before that. I remember somebody shot one and got in trouble well before that.


"In time of war, send me all the Alabamians you can get, but in time of peace, for Lord's sake, send them to somebody else." General Edward H. Plummer

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight." Jeff Cooper
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,844
14 point
14 point
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,844
Found an article that says it was 56. In 79.


"In time of war, send me all the Alabamians you can get, but in time of peace, for Lord's sake, send them to somebody else." General Edward H. Plummer

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight." Jeff Cooper
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2024 Aldeer LLP.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0
(Release build 20240826)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 8.3.20 Page Time: 0.183s Queries: 44 (0.056s) Memory: 3.1073 MB (Peak: 3.6060 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2025-05-10 07:40:06 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS
</a